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That's a GREAT idea, Jeanne!

After all, as the saying goes....." Actions speak louder than words "..........

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If stores continue to sell these products, I say do not buy at the stores for a day. See how that effects them!

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Yay for people power, it can change governments and goodness knows what else. Look at what the Vietnam War marches did, we need people to get together and tell them it isn't good enough.

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I just remembered this. I wonder how effective it was. I thought Walmart pulled the pet treats from China, but I'm not positive. I will look next time I go shopping.
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Again, good point Jules!
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Sadly the only way to make them do anything is to hit them in the pocket. Maybe someone with a bit of money (who's lost a pet) can take the greedy buggers to court and milk them for a packet, only then will things change

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I had a friend who worked for Petsmart for years. She felt a lot of things went down hill after cooperations took over stores like this. It is all about the money. Maybe if they had a cat or dog that died from a product sent from China, they will feel differently.

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I talked to one of the staff we've become friendly with at the PetSmart store we go to, and she said their hands are tied as what is on the shelves - it's all up to "administration at the corporate level "..... When there is a recall of something, they are very quick to pull products, but otherwise, it is just a case of the old adage of " Caveat Emptor " ---- " Let the Buyer Beware "

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Petco this week has the Canyon Ranch treats on sale. I wrote to them and told them that they were on the list of suspected treats poisoning dogs, but they said since they aren't recalled they are not worried about selling them. About all that are being recalled, though, are the ones that might have salmonella or e-coli, not the poisoned ones from China. I think all the places are continuing to sell the stuff from China even though so many dogs have been poisoned by it and I don't really appreciate how they are more interested in the money than the health of the animals. Same with the human food companies that just keep adding stuff that causes cancer.



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Yeah I erred on the side of caution and got grain free food and make him grain free treats. Initially I made food to save money, but the amount my dog eats, not a cost savings anymore! I do save on the treats though. From what I have seen of the recommended sites that tell you how to balance their meals, you have to pay for something...either a recipe or a supplement.

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Companies don't usually care about anything but the money anymore. The CEOs make millions and the workers keep getting laid off and have nothing to live on. Worse, though, is that almost everything here (don't know about other countries) is imported from China and the Chinese have purposely been poisoning things that they export to the U.S. I can't say what they do to exports to other countries.

I used to feed raw to my dogs and they did great on that. There is always a lot of people against that because they say that you can't get their nutrients right and vets that say you have to go to a nutritionist, etc., but I didn't have problems with my dogs not growing right or anything. I think that most anything homemade would be safer than stuff from China, though. It is bad enough that everything else is made in china, without them poisoning the food and toys.



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If you have a dehydrator you wouldn't need a pet nutritionalist to dry a chicken breast for your dogs. If you slice them thinly they along with beef strips make great treats, freeze them if you don't think they'll last.

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There is toxic junk in people foods too! I think the thing to to is to control your own risk by making your own food and your pet food as much as possible. My vet cautioned me that I should go to a canine nutritionist if I wanted to make Charlie's food but treats yo can certainly do and I have done them much better and cheaper.

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Kathy I think that would eliminate a lot of problems, same with governments, if they think something is so worthwhile, spend their own money on it first. I think things would change quick smart if that was the way things went

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No matter where things are manufactured, or whether they are for humans or animals conditions and testing has to be much more stringent AND consistent too.

Look at all the pet food recalls over the last few years, or all the childrens toys that were being imported with lead in the paint, pharmaceuticals containing untested or safe ingredients..... the list goes on and on.....

I know that the manufacturers are all concerned with their profit margins, but surely lives are more important in the long run. Maybe I am just a foolish, old, naive individual.

I do like Jules' solution though - make them use the products themselves!!!

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Jeanne, thanks for the posting!!

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They need to can China, and start making the treats here.

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I was reading today that FDA is requiring inspections like they do at human manufacturing plants in the U.S. I don't understand how that is going to make that much difference when the stuff that is poisoning the dogs is imported. They would need to go to China to inspect the plants there and make sure the poison isn't getting put in the foods and I doubt the Chinese would allow that. They should not allow the import of those products.



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Thanks for the link Jeanne, I agree with Jules!!!!!!!!

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Thanks for the link Jeanne.

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I agree Jewel!!

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Thanks for the link Jeanne.

One wonders what in the hell is in the stuff to make the animals so sick. I wonder if they are checking for melamine poisoning, it was the stuff that killed a lot of babies in China.

Whatever they find they should make the people who own these companies eat the crap they foist on us pet owners

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Thanks Jeanne!

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Thank you for the link.



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