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3/30/18 4:23 P

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Thank you for responding, Shirahval!

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3/30/18 2:22 P

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Hi, White,
I found that giving up cheese was the hardest part of becoming vegan. Every once in a while I still have the craving for a cheese pizza -- extra cheese, please. I've also heard Dr. Neal Barnard say that cheese is addictive, so I'm not surprised about having cravings and withdraw symptoms from giving up cheese.

Hang in there! Best of luck.

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3/29/18 9:08 A

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I know this is an old topic but I found it when I was googling for 'dairy withdrawal'.
I was eating A LOT of cheese in the past few weeks, due to following an elimination diet - so no lactose - that limits my food choices quite a bit. I began to suspect that even though I was not eating any lactose, I may still be sensitive to dairy.

So, I stopped eating all dairy (cheese, lactose free yoghurt) two days ago. Yesterday I was very 'HUNGRY' - craving food and more food.
Today I have the weirdest feeling in my body, my head mostly. A mix of being dizzy, sleepy and tired. I feel like I did when I gave up eating refined sugar. No focus, hard to concentrate, ready to take a nap.
As if I have a low blood sugar level. Looked it up: no, there's no carbs in cheese. So I started searching and came across this article about casein:
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s-real-thanks-to-casomorphins/


Seems like I may be having cheese withdrawals! emoticon

I am very curious how it will go from here. I intend to continue to avoid dairy / cheese and then after a few weeks 'test' it.



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I went vegan "cold turkey"(there really should be a veggie way to say that lol!!)two and a half years ago and never went through any withdrawls and I loved cheese, but with all the hormones and additives in dairy products it doesn't surprise me that people could have withdrawls! Just push through it and hopefully they will go away for you! : )

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7/29/14 6:41 P

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I haven't experienced that. I usually feel better if I stay away from dairy--it exacerbates my seasonal allergies--but it's hard because I love cheese and cream. I've got most of it out of my diet right now, but it always creeps back in.

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I know I am drawn to dairy things. I have ben told they make body inflammation. I sure have that. I was just tested for food sensitivities. I was advised (yet again) not to eat dairy. Today is the first day.

A week ago I bought smoked swiss cheese. It made my body hurt right away! Also it made me fall asleep. I tried it again the next evening and the same thing happened! I don't know if it was the smoking process or the swiss cheese itself. I do know if I buy swiss cheese, I will eat it till it is gone.

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YES. This happens to me, which is absolutely ridiculous because I am lactose intolerant and my body should be cheering! But no, not at all....I sort of turn into a demon.

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9/6/11 11:08 A

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I just gave up cheese three weeks ago and experienced some surprising withdrawal symptoms (I was convinced I had to flu but I didn't have a runny nose). Here are some articles discussing why dairy, and cheese in particular, is so addictive. It isn't just that you crave the taste or fat. There are casomorphins in cheese that act like opiates in human beings.

http://www.vegsource.com/articles2/barna
rd_food_seduction.htm

http://johnderrick.com/miscellaneous/unu
sual-news/shocking-dairy-detox-this-wi
ll-blow-your-mind/#comment-2620

http://www.nutramed.com/symptoms/withdra
wal.htm

http://www.care2.com/greenliving/cheese-
contains-morphine.html

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10/22/08 5:01 P

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Yeah, there is something addictive about cheese. One theory I read is that milk naturally has chemicals to produce feelings of wellbeing to promote bonding with offspring while nursing. Our bodies do work is mysterious and wonderous ways.

Agreed that cheese is hard to give up. My experience is that from a health point of view dairy is worse than meat. When I became a lacto-ovo vegetarian 28 years ago I never really noticed feeling better or healthier. For the most part I was just substituting cheese for meat in dishes. Only a few years ago when I started to avoid dairy did I start to feel healthier.

I think dairy is hard to give up but I think the benefits for doing so are big.

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10/18/08 8:36 A

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Maybe its because I've been giving up dairy slowly and kinda naturally that I experience no withdrawal. I went to the store for milk and since I had recently switched to skim which I hate, I decided vanilla soy tasted better. Next shopping day I tryed almond milk, which I really like.

Next week I want to look for soy yogurt. I'm not much of a cheese eater but I will have to look for an alternative.

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I gave up dairy about 2 months ago and I was a cheese lover for sure. I am happy to say I had no side effects except for wanting an occasional piece of cheese.

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10/18/08 4:47 A

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I have never given up dairy hence unable to comment.

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Thanks everyone for your replies. I was thinking about it after I posted and a lot of what you all have said cme to my mind. I remembered reading in skinny b*tch about the addictive properties of cheese and yes I am a total cheeseaholic so i really do think that it is actually withdrawal!
I've tried the substitutes before and really don't like them so not going there again. I didn't really drink cow's milk anyway, only on occassion. I have soy milk with my cereal.

I had a couple of glasses of wine last night and that improved my mood but I don't think its a long term solution! emoticon hopefully the withdrawal will stop soon!





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10/17/08 6:23 P

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I don't know the answer either. I can't give up my cheese and yogurt, or rather I don't want to give them up. I would be cranky if I had to give either of them up, but I am sure I would eventually get over it...so I don't know. Not much help am I?

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There is an interesting section in the book "skinny bitch" about dairy which explains a lot about why you might be going through withdrawal.

Apparently, along with containing traces of morphine, codeine and other opiates which are naturally produced in cow's livers, cow's milk also contains a protein called casein. This protein breaks apart during digestion and releases opiates into your system which produces a "feel good" sensation.

So basically you are going through withdrawal from dairy products just as you would with any other addiction such as caffeine, alcohol or cigarettes. Pretty freaky huh?!

Aside from that though, there is probably also an element of just having to adjust to it. If you've been used to having dairy in certain areas of your diet it can take a while to find alternatives that you like and that suit you. For example, when I first tasted soy milk I hated the taste of it. It didn't taste how I expected milk to taste and it took time to get used to it. Now days I LOVE soy milk and far prefer it to cow's milk. Even if I was to start having dairy again I'd still only drink soy milk because I actually prefer it!

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Did you LOVE dairy before you quit? Let's face it, some people are absolutely in love with dairy. My husband is a notorious cheeseaholic if there ever was one!! Have you tried some of the non-dairy products that mimic the taste like nutritional yeast flakes? Sprinkle some of these on fresh popcorn with melted coconut oil and you'll get some of that tast back! Also, try some of the substitution cheeses that are soy. I haven't met one yet that I've really liked so I choose to not use them. Maybe where you are there is a good replacement and you can get your happy back again?!!

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Never heard of that???Anything is possible..

I think that Willboy is better at answering that question...

Hope it passes..



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I think you may be cranky in the same sense as someone who gives up cigarettes or stops drinking alcohol. Its just withdrawal. It eventually will pass.

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well i am taking dairy so don't know the answer but i don't think that it can cause any side effects, it might be some other reason or it may be that time of month or may be its your mind who is conscious about leaving dairy or something like that,


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Hi all I am just wondering if anyone has experienced side effects when giving up dairy? What I'm refering to specifically is changes in mood. I've been off dairy (milk & milk products) for 4 days and I am very cranky. I feel the way I do when I'm REALLY stressed and over worked. Although I prob am stressed and over worked its no more than normal so shouldn't be affecting me.

I've went of dairy for periods before but i can't think if i felt like this or not. Any comments will help. If this is related to me giving up dairy how long can i expect it to last?

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