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I am still struggling too. I think I am OK and then the diet mind comes back.

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i got the book from the library months ago. i read it but am still struggling to listen to my body. i tend to overthink and my cravings kick in and the bad habits happen. i am not a very intuitive person so i need to find more quiet and listen to my body and not get mentally foggy.

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i am still craving stuff and not always waiting it out or taking time to think about it to much. i am trying to limit my pop. i crave it a lot bit o a, working on giving myself a cut off at night to stop drinking sweetened beverages. i hope it helps me get sleepy at night.

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Woo hoo... that's great, Tammy!!!

I am not an enjoyer of regular meals. I am a snacker. I'd rather eat when I'm hungry, than "oh, it's 5pm, time for dinner." I still do that, because my husband is like that, but I'd rather graze and learn to not over eat in that way.

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tricks i used this weekend:
pack a water bottle, or drink water before other beverages.
also - eat slow, taste the food, and focus on the fellowship when around friends/family

still did not eat a ton of veggies or regular meals, but i did not overeat 1 time. normally, at extended family meals i would always overeat till my gut was hurting, but not today or yesterday! i enjoyed my meals and didnt get and gut aches.

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I'm in agreement with you both on the contradiction of using a dieting website while trying to do IE. And I am still obsessed with the scale.

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yes very quiet .sounds like your week went well mine wastnt too shabby either emoticon
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I've not read it. I'll have to check it out. I've had a pretty good week. It's been crazy and hectic, but I haven't overeaten or binged, so that is a huge success for me.

How's everyone else??? It's been super quiet here.

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hi i have just ordered a new book by geneen roth this messy magnificent life anyone read it? hope you are all in good spaces and happy
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i do so agree i am in my head saying no diet but a lifestyle change and yet i use a "diet"website still i persist
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Well, I agree, it sounds easy, but as someone who has abused her body with food for so many years, I know it's not. That's why I'm trying IE. I have a friend who eats anything and everything she wants. She knows how to stop when she is just this side of full, which translates to satisfied. Not once has Diane ever dieted in her 60+ years. Why? Because food is nourishment only. Yes, you can celebrate and have food, but the food is not the celebration. It's not for when you're sad. Or mad. Or frustrated. Or happy.

IE is not a diet. It's a complete and total lifestyle change. We just need to learn to do that. And it's tough here, at Spark, which is basically a "diet" website. I struggle with staying on the teams that I am, because some of the challenges are weighing in (IE no no) tracking food (IE no no), etc.

I guess it will be about not obsessing!!!



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sounds so easy when you say it like that I am at the moment working on knowing when I have eaten enough
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well... the trick is to eat what you want, when you want, but to stop when you are satisfied. That's the difference between IE and dieting. We need to remember, this isn't a diet, but a lifestyle change.

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i've been craving taco bell the last few weeks. i made homemade taco salads 1 week, then last week i bought some frozen burritos. i had no meal plan so i decided to pick up some. not a great choice but now ill stop craving it.

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I do so agree overly tired is a sign for me that I am not eating well.
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Tammy... are you sleepy because you aren't sleeping or are you not getting enough nutrition to power your body through the day? I know that when I am not at the top of my game, getting in the nutrients I need, my body lets me know. Overeating or wanting to is a definite clue, but my body is telling me that eating is what I need to do... I just got to make sure that I feed it what it needs, not what my mouth wants... which generally are two different things.

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you could do a lot worse than a subway to overeat on .

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evening meal planning is not great. my appetite has been off and i am craving fast food, i did subway and overate, but i do pile the sub with veggies. i am pretty good at work sticking with my pre-portioned items. but i have been really sleepy

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Hope everyone is doing well... I'm prepping some meals right now for the warming shelter and am in a mild panic because the rice is not cooking up. Other than that, all is well here. My oldest will be home on Saturday for a week. Looking forward to seeing him.

Happy healthy IE Wednesday!!!

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thanks so much .
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Jacquie... I've had you all in my prayers in NZ. Let the tears fall, that's what your body needs.

Thanks Rachel... it's my hope that it will help some. emoticon

Happy, healthy Monday... make it an IE Day!!!

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Monica: maybe an adjustment of your thyroid medication can help with the weight loss.
(This, and IE emoticon )
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pity you have to go back to meds but if you need them thats all there is to it.
i have been on a bread binge today i finally realised i was so upset about the massacre in christchurch but hadnt let my self cry so i did and i have hit the reset button for IE.
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That dang diet mentality. I've actually argued with my own husband about it. He is a former competitive bodybuilder and I think we are both the cross that each other has to bear!!! Hahaha. But honestly... he is super supportive as he watches me ONCE AGAIN begin to diet/eat healthy/exercise more/weigh/measure/ blah, blah, blah. While I have not lost much weight with IE, I have started to come to a better understanding about who I am and what food means to my body, if that makes any sense. But for him, he just says, "Okay, I'm going to diet for two weeks (or however long) because I need to lose (fill in the how many pounds) and he does it. He just says it, works at it and does it. He knows that men and women are different, but what he doesn't understand is that it's so damn discouraging that I can't seem to lose anything, even when I'm trying.

Tomorrow I go in for blood work. I had a physical (did I say this already) and my PA thinks my thyroid is off. I was on meds, but went off for more of a natural way to combat sluggish thyroid. But the tell tale signs are there... hair falling out, fingernails splitting and breaking off, sluggish, achy (okay, maybe that's just me too fat)... so we'll get some answers and I'm guessing I'm going to be back on thyroid meds.



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Monica, I completely share your questions. There is a vast chasm, between the diet plans we are "fed", and our own personal experience.
This is what really counts in final analysis, otherwise, we keep on fighting against our physiology, and at some point the rubber band snaps and we find ourselves bingeing.

I will continue this experiment of one, bearing in mind that each of us is different.

It is freeing though.

happy St- Patricks, all!

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Happy St. Patrick's Day all!!! emoticon

Rachel... I'm really interested in what you find out about the meal/snack. I have found that if I do that, that I do tend to binge less. This is just a last couple of days discovery. It goes against what I think of when I think intuitive, but maybe I'm guessing it's finding balance. Today I went too long and I ate some M&Ms at church as we were setting up our potato feed. They tasted good, but they certainly did nothing to curb my hunger.

I'm sure my intuition is there too...Jacquie... just hiding amongst the fat!!!

Tammy... good to see you back!!!

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im with you.i know my intuition is some where!

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my stomach has started growling at me and i mentally tell it "ok, i can feed you some veggies." it protests for chocoate. i counter with fruit. sometimes it says ok to the fruit or veggie. other times it pouts. either way i am better at not caving right away. so i have been feeling a little hungy and have cravings, but i am figuring out better substitutes and to seperate hunger from craving

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(second installment )

There are so many conflicting theories about hunger, our brain, our chemistry that it is confusing.

However, I find it very helpful to share our experiences, (like the tendency to binge when waiting too long to eat, -even when we felt no hunger-).

This way I may not overlook an important part of the puzzle and will be more likely to find the solution that works for me. As many people say:"we are all an experiment of one".


So right now i will make a point to eat 3 meals and 3 snacks every day for 2 weeks. Apparently it may help my brain relax and be less reactive when I start to investigate my hunger.

And maybe, also, I will be more able to decode my hunger before it gets me in harm's way.


Yes to intuitive eating, but I have to get back my intuition!!!! hehehehe

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Sorry about the hacking and the time it took to correct it. Ridiculous!

And kudos to you about the meal.

Thank you for sharing your observations about eating, binges and what to do. Glad to see that you have had similar experiences. So this warrants investigating.

Right now I will eat something every 3hours for a while. Really don't feel like it, but it is worth experimenting if it can change my to early famine alarm in my brain.

Will report on it. Feeling stuffed right now....

Have a good day!


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hahaha... isn't that funny, Rachel, because that was the first thing in my head as I was not eating... "ooooo, I'll lose weight." I purposely did NOT step on the scale yesterday or today, for that very reason.

We met my son, Sam, last night at a half way point for both of us for dinner. He had his debit card hacked and after waiting nearly six weeks and a change of address to his college address, it came to our house. Please feel free to slap your forehead... honestly. Anyhoo... it's been tough having to have his girlfriend and his roommate pay for everything, then vimmo, bimmo, or whatever it is that he uses to pay them back, so we took it to him. They just opened up a Cracker Barrel, so we met there. Of course, my brain says fries, fries, fries... but my stomach says, "Girl, if you eat that, you are going to regret it." So stomach won... no fries and the grilled fish was mild and delicious. Oscar was like, dang it... that's super good. I ate my salad, but left most of the mac n cheese and okra. Again... dinner with lots of talking and a chance for the food to digest left me satisfied before the food was gone. I felt bad leaving it, because being a member of the clean plate society, you just gotta clean that plate. I didn't and left there thinking, yay me!!!

I think about that too. The binging when I've gone too long, even when I think that I'm not hungry. It has happened and that's a tough one. Do I eat a small snack even if I'm not hungry? Yes? No? Ugh!!!

We'll get there... together we'll get it figgered out!!!

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I am still experimenting with eating and hunger. Became more aware that my (rare) binges occur when I have spent too long between meals, even if I did not consciously feel hungry. According to a theory, my brain feels under famine and tells me to eat in order to make provisions,

Still, according to that theory, I want to make sure that my body and my brain who have experienced the famine induced by my former diets, discounting my hunger, now need to be reassured that it won't happen again. So even if I don't feel hungry, I have to make sure, at least for a few weeks, that not too much time elapses between meals and snacks.

Hope this approach will reduce my binges even more.


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thats good not the tummy thing but the desire to eat. anything wrong with me i want to eat
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Monica, hope you feel better soon. And without this becoming a licence to overeat emoticon

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hey all... I'm squeaking in for a bit. I had some sort of stomach thing yesterday and still feel like a pile of poop. But hey... intuitively, I know I don't want to eat!!! hahaha!!!

that's all I got today... sorry IE sisters.

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love that .need to apply it to between dinner and bed time.!
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I agree with that. I'll never forget sitting in an Overeater's Anonymous meeting and the leader said, "It was so profound to me that no one has ever starved to death between breakfast and lunch."



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i love the phrase "lost touch with my hunger"it is so true for so many of us going to ponder on that one .i overate yesterday and as he lives a days drive away i didnt see him .i finally realized why i was eating and rang him again and told him how much i missed being with himbut not until i had eaten a box of crackers .
hit the restart button and start over
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Ya, I totally know what it was Rachel. It's hard to see him go... and he left not feeling good. He was supposed to go out with friends this morning for breakfast, but ended up sleeping until his girlfriend's parents came to pick him up and take them to the airport. She just texted that he slept the entire flight. He needs to get a doctor, both GP and eye. He's in ROTC at Arizona State and needs a note if he can't do PT, which will be tomorrow morning at 5:45. Fortunately, Bailey has an aunt and grandma that live nearby, so he can get some good recommendations.

Thanks for the (((hugs)))!!!

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beignets.. so many memories attached to them… so difficult to ignore them.
Done. Forget about it.
Maybe you are a bit sad to see your son leaving? (((((hugs))))

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Confession time... I made beignets, which honestly, I'm not crazy about. Just put Josh (my youngest boy) in his girlfriend's parent's car to get him on the plane to head back to AZ.

Not hungry... don't like them much... stuffed one in my mouth.

Dang it!!!

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Yes, Tammy and Monica,work in progress indeed. And good job on not eating when not hungry, Tammy.

Last night I was invited at a friend's. Ate slowly and little without even a conscious effort. I felt satiated. Later we went to a concert. During the concert I felt hungry, then the feeling dissipated.
When I got home i made myself a snack that did not turn out as good as I expected.Then I made myself another snack, and then needed something sweet. By then i had lost contact with my hunger. This morning I was not hungry, of course, so that i did not have breakfast.


I think I have to be super careful about my late night eating, and when i don't feel hungry anymore, this should be a red flag for me to STOP!!!!

Work in progress indeed, and i know i am progressing.

Have a good day, ladies.

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That's exactly it... a work in progress, Tammy!!!

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keep working. i did well on friday at work. . i was in the mood for chocolate and a few less nutrient giving items, but it did help me realize i was not hungry and i grabbed a notebook and did a little quick journaling. sometimes was tired, others feeling agitated,, once i was feeling unfocused and looking forward to being done for the day, so the cravings are connected to different thought and emotions. i am catching myself.

tday i ate a fruit bar because iw as going gout for an early lunch. i ate a couple biscuits quickly then i slowed down. but i did not mindlessly much all day. work in progress

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Yep... put me in that same box. Read, repeat, repeat, repeat... OOOOHHHHH!!! Now I get it!!!

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oh i so agree i need to read and re-read before it sticks with me
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Jacquie, I also tend to lose any insight quickly, until it sinks in. I think focus and repetition help make it obvious and “felt” .Eventually the penny drops and it is not about willpower anymore, and things become evident.
Geneen Roth’s voice is one that makes things so clear for me too and encourages me to pursue the IE approach.
This is my wish for each one of us.

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all at different points but all aiming to reach the same goal. i have just finished appetites and think i may read when food is love next .her work make things so clear to me but being me i loose the concept to quickly .
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Jacquie is working on some form of grazing, Monica on the "new" ;-) concept of eating when hungry, and me on not going food shopping at night under false pretenses.

It looks like each one of us is pinpointing one aspect of our individual relation to food that we are starting to address.Yaye (sp) us!!!!! I think that this is an important step, as we are listening to ourselves and taking ourselves seriously, instead of hoping that the answer will come to us from the outside.

My first focus right now is the sneaky sense that I get in the evenings when i think and feel that I HAVE TO do food errands. Of course I am deluding myself but I am NEVER aware of it when it happens.The only reason I know that I am deluding myself is because it ALWAYS becomes an opportunity to eat mindlessly.

So now I am resisting the temptation to shop for food in the evenings, and am starting, per Geneen Roth, to become more aware of my desire to "bolt" as she puts it, instead of sitting with my discomfort at feeling lonely and without a clear goal at night.
In a sense I see this insight as a progress.

Thanks ladies for listening. Looking forward to read how things are going with you.

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wow at the moment i am working on sitting down to eat which means i have to own every mouthful .and boy do i grab a lot in just passing. open the fridge a mouthful of this clearing the table bits an pieces .supermarket samples can change the whole shopping list aimed to what ever i was given savory =cheese bread crackers dips sweet= likewise .i hadnt realised how much i eat just moving around
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i have started re-reading geneen's work i am reading appetites at the moment she is a very wise woman

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What a concept indeed, to get into my thick head!
But we are certainly working on it.

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Rachel... sugar is that slippery slope for me also. And it's not all sugar. It depends on what it feels like in my mouth, if that makes sense. Like, I can do a chai and be good. But cake with icing... okay, let's be real here... the icing off the cake in my mouth sends me over the edge. It's almost like I'm a dang heroin addict... looking for that next perfect fix.

And nerves... coating those feelings in order to suppress them. I've done that too. Stuff it down... funny thing is that I'm still nervous/flustered/angry/sad and feeling icky too. So dumb.

I think you're right though... it's a lesson learned. New things will cause new emotions and that is just what they are. Heck... old things will cause old or new emotions and that's what they are too. That doesn't mean that I need to eat food because of my emotions.

Hungry = food
Anger = anger
Lunch = food
Sad = sad
Breakfast = food
Happiness = happiness

Wow... what a concept she says as she slaps her forehead!!!

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Monica, this is super!!! You did it!!! despite a emotionally happy situation, where you could have easily told yourself:"just this once"You can indeed strut like a peacock in your head.The beauty is that you could have your fries and eat (part of)them.

My yesterday night was not so glorious: after a whole week of eating mindfully, in the late evening I had the idea of sampling a slice of pizza at a store that was supposed to be delicious. I just upped and left to get there without even thinking! Once there, they had only complete pizzas. So I did not buy a whole pizza, but stopped at a grocery store and bought a 100gr. bar of chocolate and a small bag of french fries that i inhaled. And back home, had a "cocktail". I had been on a slippery slope that evening, with eating shrimps standing up in the kitchen for dinner, instead of sitting down at the table with no distraction.

(I think I was nervous about having to get up very early this morning for a pre-op appointment at a distant Hospital, and lost my mindfulness) I have to notice more readily when something can make me nervous, instead of pretending to myself that I should not be affected by it.

When this happened, it was as if I forgot my intention.Later I had trouble sleeping because of all the sugar and did not feel so good.I hope I learned my lesson that I cannot quit being mindful. And also, that too much sweets make me feel ickee. It is sinking in. I am not putting myself down, I just hope that I will remember the lesson sooner rather than later.

I have been able to compare How much better I feel after sane eating and enough sleep.

So, those aspects will be part of the structure of my day.

Just finished re- reading "Women Food and God" yesterday . A lot of what she writes applies to me, and i plan to start reading it once more.(obviously it did not prevent me from mindless eating yesterday… but I am on a learning curve and will not give up.)

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I'm good either way also.

So... yesterday was a good IE day. We went to lunch and I had a calamari sandwich with fries. I love the fries at this particular place, but I was slow and mindful of my meal. I visited with my in laws, who we met at the restaurant and with my son, who is home for his spring break. I ended up giving him about 3/4 of my beloved fries because I was full.

Yep... I was strutting around like a peacock in my head. I was so worried that I'd gorge.

IE Restaurant Mission Accomplished!!!

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Thank you Jacquie. Actually, I was not thinking of a new thread. We can continue to use this one, unless you prefer a more specific one , devoted to our focus on I.E.
I am good with it either way.
What do you think,Monica and Jacquie?

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sounds great to me do you want to start a new thread?

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I am re reading Women Food and God.
It makes so much sense and is in line with I E. that I have been practicing for the last month or so.And this is what this team is about.

It would be great if we could use this thread to share how we are doing in our actual journey to IE. and support each other while doing this.Share what we focus on, how it works for us etc.

What do you think?

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Oh Jacquie... that has got to hurt like the dickens. Good luck!!!

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hi we are warm and sunny here. off to the dr today for script repeats and to display the dodgy knee i broke the patella in november and it still gives me grief at times so will see what can be done
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Popping in quickly to say hi to everyone. Super blustery Wednesday here. Oscar and I were able to get out this morning and head to Ash Wednesday services before work. He followed me to school and I dropped off my car, then we went. It was nice, because I arrived when all the families were coming in to drop off, but I had my parking spot!!! We're on minimum day schedule, due to conferences, plus the rainy days all lead to one thing... ain't no one got time for that. I decided not to fight the chaos, so computers has been free choice!!!

Why, yes I am the most poopular teacher at Templeton Elementary!!! Hahaha!!!

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enjoy your sons visit .i must get ridof a lot of the self help stuff as well
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I am in that club also... too many "self help" books. I have been decluttering my home and have been looking at all those books that I spent so much money on. They will be heading to the thrift store during Lent as part of my alms giving!!! Hahaha!!!

Happy mindful Tuesday... I have my youngest son flying home today for his spring break. Thank goodness his plane lands before the skies open up again. We have another atmospheric river coming in at this afternoon. Time to break out the ark again!!!

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i love geneen's work she writs with such compassion what will always stay with me is a quote from her you are not broken having spent years reading self help books and trying to fix myself it made me cry
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Eating without distraction is so important. Now that the boys are gone off in college, we rarely eat at the table anymore. It's awful, because, while I try to concentrate on what I'm eating, it's not as good as when we are at the table. I really need to make that a priority again.

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I am continuing to read “ food women and god”. Geneen Roth makes a point to get us to eat without any distraction. I used to feel that it was boring. Now I am doing it more often, and when I do, I indeed feel full sooner and eat less. I do concentrate on the taste and the fullness.
Not sure I would have been able to do it last year. It is a process, now I find it easier to do.

And, Jacquie, a resounding yes to vigilance!

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you sound like me rachel im down i need cheese or bread or danish .
i need to get into my head the need for vigilance food is my drug of choice
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What a great list, Rachel!!! I'm definitely going to use it.

Sorry, I was a bit out of the loop yesterday. I got a bit sidetracked with some housework. Saturdays are a fast day for me (faith based) and last night, Oscar decided he wanted Chinese after Mass. Ugh... I knew I should have ordered off the menu, but no, I thought I could do the buffet. AND of course, I ended up gobbling. I could just kick myself, because I did not listen to my inner voice. I drowned it out with Chinese food. Lesson learned. I really wanted Mu Shu Chicken anyway, but didn't order it. That, I could have totally controlled. Ugh.

I hate waking up and not being hungry... it's the extended reminder of my gluttony.

My inlaws are coming over today with my brother in law, who is moving from San Diego up to Oregon. I'll be making dinner, so I'll be in control with that.

Happy, mindful Sunday friends!!!

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I had a binge last night. It started with eating mindlessly that led to overeating and ended up with me purchasing 3 (!) pastries from the pastry shop.
Looking back, I think I was feeling a bit down and it was a way to soothe and reward myself for good behavior during the past week.
Not really a reward, when I think back about it….
At least I am taking the time to analyse it now, and hopefully I will remember next time I feel this way, to take care of myself in a more constructive way. Or to just ride the wave of the low mood, knowing that it will pass.

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pleased im not the only one in this situation ! i was sort of feeling guilty about it.
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Glad you find this useful, Jacquie.

I see retirement as the time to really do what i want, even if I don't necessarily know what it is yet.

So in order to find out, I need some structure to my day. And then, I hope ideas will arise.


This thread is certainly a good place to share our experiences.


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oh Rachel i just love the list you posted .it sort of answers everything .
i think i miss the structure of going to work . as a nurse i was fairly well disciplined and that seems to have deserted me days tend to drift and i achieve very little .i want to put structure into my days again .
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Following is a summary of the "Love Menu" drawn by Cookie Rosenblum.

She asks us "what do you need" to get :

Comfort

Pampering

to be healthy

to connect with others

to have some alone time

to move our body

read, look at, smell, listen to

indoors or outside


It sounds like a good check list to care for our needs.


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Yes, Tammy and Jacquie, to becoming aware of our patterns and addressing them before they become habits.

I have retired recently and can relate to the make up thing. I also think that make up (or not), and eating, and exercising and having fun a etc.... are all part of our lifestyle. And that we have to become mindful of it, so that we can design the lifestyle that suits us individually.
I am still in the exploring phase.

Right now I find it difficult to be consistent and I will work on it.
One thing that I intend to do daily is to write down the night before my 4 - 5 priorities for the next day. I hope that this can give my day a structure.
As far as eating: just being as mindful as possible AND having healthy food in the fridge so that there is something ready when I want to eat.

Monica, I love the way you put it: nourish myself with positive things. It looks like this is a big part of the puzzle. Thank you for expressing it so clearly!

Monica, Tammy, Jacquie, I am wishing you a good day.

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how are you planning to change this before it becomes a pattern you follow daily for me if i dont nip it in the bud it just becomes the norm ..
i want to post about my self care .since i retired i just tend to put on whats clean then eat because i look a mess .cant remember the last time i did my makeup i need to change this .IT HAS BECOME MY NORM.
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I want to post daily about my mindfull or mindless eating. i did well during the work day and by evening i was so tired. i took a nap but when i woke up i was still sleepy and blah feeling. i did not make a good choice for supper and then i overate. i was groogy the rest of the night and did not exercise.

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what a great idea for lent .i can spend hours playing backgammon or solitaire on line cutting back on computer time will be lenten pledge .
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I'll have to take a look, Rachel. As Lent is just around the corner, I'm getting off all social media but Spark, because it's health related. I don't spend a whole lot of time there, but I'm looking to nourish myself with positive things.

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Thanks, Jacquie!
I just downloaded a free e book by Cookie Rosenblum about clearing your path to weight loss. She has quite a few good ideas and it is compatible with intuitive eating.

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Yay!!!

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Yes,Jacquie,t his would be great if you could make this a sticky topic!
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shall we make this a sticky topic and use it for daily chats i havent been getting notification when people post here so i am sorry if i have missed you
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I've been making sure that my snack and lunch are packed for work every day, because that is the slippery slope for me. There's nothing worse than a teacher's lounge for the mindless snacker.

Okay... Tammy, we've got another conversation going on at "amounts".

Not sure if we should start one called... "Hey, we're all right here now!!!" Hahaha!!!

Has anyone heard from Suman? I'm going to pop over and say hey a bit later, right now Daisy is bugging me that we both need to head out for our walk.

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Good for you, Tammy, that you have food all ready in the fridge, in case you feel the need to eat.
Mindless snacking happens, unfortunately.
I did it too , today, and it is a slippery slope.

Intuitive eating takes discipline, I have to remind myself.
Well, tomorrow is another day, and I will stick to listening to my body.

And please let us know how you are doing with the melatonin and the B12.




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i cleaned my fridge so i did some mindless snacking because my supper plan fell through. so when cleaning i chopped ups some pepper for a salad tomorrow and then sliced extra for supper tonight so extra freggie serving to add to the lettuce on my wrap.

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we have had a lot of snow and cold weather lately. so it is making me sleepy and the cabin fever is getting to me. last week i picked up melatonin for at night and vitamin b12 for the morning. i am hoping i start to feel more energetic. i am also hoping with more energy i stop eating when i get sleepy.

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Looks like there are only the two of us right now. Let's make the best of it. Maybe others will join eventually?
Have a good day!

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emoticon Rachel... me too!!!

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Monica, you are right. It is that simple. But we have forgotten it, and now we start to listen to the wisdom of our bodies again.
I am learning to listen and trust its messages.

The only thing I need to do is to ask myself, in a *caring* way , whether I am hungry, and what I want to eat , and listen to the answer.
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Of course there are times when I forget, but, cumulatively, it works.


And the surprising thing, that you too are noticing, is that I have less cravings and eat less for emotional support. My tentative explanation is that my new caring attitude towards me and my eating, gives me already a lot of support.


Monica, I am so glad that we are sharing this journey. Hope your day is a satisfying one.

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