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I agree, but I also think that the fast food companies need to take some responsibility as well. The way that they market and the amount of money they put into making new products that are soooo unhealthy could be used for other things. Then again they wouldn't have the money if we didn't give it to them.

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I agree, know one makes me or my family stop at a fast food place and actually its a rarity for us. I prefer home cooked meals and when we do dine out as a family its at places where we can sit down together and has healthy food menu choices. It is a person's own responsibilty to be making their own choices and owning up to them.



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I'm with you on that We control & decide what we are going to eat or not we don't have to "super size" fast foods Its our choices that make us heavy

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FREESI15 has made an excellent point. Today, education in nutrition is sadly lacking. I was shopping and overheard some kids asking their mother for fruit. She said they couldn't afford it...but she had several big bags of chips and packs of sodas in her cart. I don't think she was being abusive, just ignorant.

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You are right. We need to take responsibility for our own choices that we have made. We also need to take responsibility for our children or grandchildren's future. We all know that the fast food places are bad for us so why do we take out families still. Even though we will make the better choice now we still let the children have what they want.

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GoodHealth, I'd just be happy to have honest, reliable information about what's in it!

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I AGREE THAT FAST FOOD SHOULD NOT BE BANNED. I JUST WISH THE FAST FOOD INDUSTRY WOULD CHANGE THE WAY THEY COOK THE FOOD AND USE HEALTHY INGREDIENTS....

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Flying, that is a fantastic idea! More schools should have those programs. The savings in healthcare costs would likely offset it.



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It is not any business what any of my neighbors do. All I can do is lead by example.


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yes education is key here. Even if it "seems healthy" sometimes it is very misleading.
My daughter's school started a pilot program on parenting classes. The attendance was low last year, but I was one of the parents that took them. I loved them and one of the things that they focused on was nutrition. We spent 2 1/2 hours one night talking just about that. This year, a bunch more people have come and they did the same thing. But for us graduates they took us to the grocery store to talk to the buyers and other people. We were able to apply what we had learned to real life. We even went through the aisles looking at labels and discussing them. I think this was so helpful for me. I even have my daughter read them occassionaly so she knows what she is eating. A lot of people are dupped into thinking what they are eating is healthy when in reality it isn't any healthier than it's counterpart.

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I don't think fast food places should be banned, because frankly the the chain sit down restaurants are just as bad or even worse, and a lot of us have schedules that require eating out a lot or ordering in at the office for meetings, etc. But people DO need nutritional label help to make the right choices, and I think places should be legally required to give it to us, as well as the ingredients in the food, just like packaged foods are required to. I know what I'm reading and how to make healthier choices, but lot of people don't realize how misleading some healthier looking foods can be.

The wording of the law should also be clear to make it harder for places to get around it. Here in CA, we have a new law that requires restaurants with 20 or more locations to provide nutritional info, but the wording of the law doesn't quite go far enough. Here are some examples I've found just recently:

Example: CPK, a very popular place for offices to order salads from for office meetings, manages to get around posting fat content by only posting the SATURATED fat content.

At another place, in the nutritional information column where most people expect to find the calories, they've posted the weight of the item in grams so that when you glance at it, it looks like you're seeing a reasonable calorie count. (It's a California based chain. We don't weigh in grams!)

At a place I ate the other night, what LOOKED like a healthy salad containing beautiful dark green lettuce, a reasonable portion of grilled chicken, and fresh mango salsa turned out to have a whopping 1600 mgs of sodium!!! (The new USDA guidelines are only 1500 per DAY.)

Finally, in terms of calories, fat, and sodium, the In-and-Out burger I got protein style another night was a healthier choice than the turkey burger I used to get at another place that contained corn syrup, tons of sodium, and ground up poultry skin to make it "juicier".

Sorry for the long rant, but people really need to know the stuff that goes on.



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I think we all agree that we do not want the government over-controlling our lives. I don't want to get arrested for eating fast food! the punishment on my hips is good enough. I do like when the nutritional value of the food is posted on the web or in the restaurant so we can make good choices. I think education, not regulation, is the best option.

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yes, big brother wants to rule everything we do, todays kids do not want to be accountable, people just want to blame others for the way they are. I've been teaching my kids, you own up to your mistakes, admit it, and then learn from them. I've taught them manners, they must say please, thank you, you're welcome, excuse me, etc. I have found many of my daughter's school friends are not that polite and it drives me crazy. When they disrespect me then they do not come back to my house for awhile. And I tell my daughter why. Then after a few weeks, if they want to come over, they are told the house rules and that they must be followed or they will go home and that includes, not telling us no when we ask you to stop doing something and that also includes just respect for us and our property.
I see all sorts of kids nowadays just in our apartment complex, that are rude and stay out all evening even after dark. Some of these kids will vandalize some people's cars, the laundry area, etc. They block stairs when you are trying to get down. I've had to tell several teenagers that they are being rude, that when someone is coming down the steps, they need to move their stuff or themselves. They laughed at me, but now when I come out in the mornings, they move out of the way. I earned their respect. And I tell them thank you when they do move. It is a sad state sometimes, but at least we can make a difference in our own children.

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I agree wholeheartely that we should be responsible for ourselves - however that seems to be a very old fashioned idea - these days the "powers that be" seem to think that they can take all responsibility from us by legislating on everything - as a result a generation of people with absolutely no sense of responsibility has grown up - ad this situation is only getting worse rather than better.

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I agree that fast food restaurants shouldn't be banned. I very rarely eat there, but even so, a person has to take responsibility for what they eat. You can overeat on healthy foods too. It wouldn't solve the obesity epidemic.

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FLYINGTOFREEDOM, I agree. If we make our preferences known to the fast food industry they will respond with more good choices.

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It's just as easy for me to use the salad bar at the supermarket to make a healthy take out meal as it is to go to a fast food restaurant. It's really all in the choices we make and how educated we are as a nation in how to make better food choices.

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I agree that we are all responsible for the choices we make, but sometimes those choices can be difficult for people who aren't educated about nutrition. Case in point: not long ago, while I was grocery shopping, I overheard a mother telling her children to choose a flavor of Hi-C for their lunches. What she actually said, though, was "pick out a juice". I wanted to grab her and shake her and yell "Hi-C is not juice!!!!". Can you imagine the messed-up outlook those kids are going to have regarding health and nutrition???

Ok, I am stepping off of my soapbox now. :)

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I agree that it's about personal responsibility, but I just wish there were more healthy choices at fast food restaurants.

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I am a firm objectivist in this regard. I think that if a business or individual has something to market and sell, and there IS a consumer for it, it is not the governments place to step in and regulate. There is a much better way to show this business what you demand. Stop buying their product.

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I agree with you too. I make stuff ahead of time and freeze it. Then if I am in a hurry all I have to do is take it out and warm it up.



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FLYINGTOFREEDOM I totally agree with you. We are responsible for our own actions.


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Fast food restaurants in this area anyways have to have calories on their menu boards now.
I work at KFC and we had to put calorie count on board. Sme people like seeing it others dont. It is some new law this year that says counts need to be on board.

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I think that fast food places should be restricted in some way--and definitely not in my neighborhood. We have little enough space for restaurants and until fairly recently had nothing to choose from. Now we have about 5 and I'm quite sure that those with children would not be happy with junk food on offer. As to personal responsibility--definitely--no one force feeds us except ourselves. No one can exercise for us but ourselves. If they could my money would be spent on having someone do it for me in a heartbeat!! The eating I'll do myself thank you.

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Love the idea of the school introducing new, healthy foods and giving families choices about what their kids eat.
I used to work school lunches, way back when. We sold junky snacks since they were more profitable and easier to store than healthy food. Many of the kids would spend their lunch money on junk instead of the main meal, but of course we couldn't prove it so we had to let them buy the stuff. The smart parents would pay for the meals monthly, with a pre-paid card that covered meals only.

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I totally agree with you FLYINGFREEDOM.
Fast food should be treated as an occasional "treat" not a main staple.

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I agree with restaurants having to have nutritional info on their menu and I also agree that fast food industry does need to take some responsibility for certain things. Like having healthier options on their menu, telling you what is on and in your food. It floored me when I saw the calories and fat and sodium on chicken nugget meal for kids. We don't take our kids there much anymore. Now when we do go, it is a treat to them.

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Frankly, I think all restaurants should have to provide nutritional info about their dishes. If the food in the grocery store has to have those labels, why don't restaurants?

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yes, I do agree that junk food should not be sold in our schools. My daughter's school is doing a program that introduces one new healthy food option every week. And the kids get a sample of it for free and then they leave in on the menu for a week or so to see if it sells. My daughter has told me about a lot of them and that she actually likes them. Her favorite is yogurt with fruit and granola. she has asked us to make it at home as well. the school does have some junk food, but the parents have the choice to let their child have it or not. I love that, we pay online for her food and it gives you the choice on what they are able to buy with their lunch money. it tells you what they eat that day.

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I'm all for personal responsibility and taking control over what you put in your mouth.

On the other hand, I do think that fast food restaurants have some obligations to consumers. They ought to make it easier to find out what the nutritional values are. Panera, for example, puts the calories right up there on the menu, which always affects what I order. And it wouldn't kill them to have healthier options, which many of them do.

And the woman who burned herself with the coffee suffered third degree burns -- through her clothing. It spilled in her lap, so you can guess where those burns were. She was hospitalized for over a week and had months of painful treatment. The experts at the trial testified that at the point of sale, McDonald's coffee is unfit for human consumption because it's so hot. At the trial, McDonald's acknowledged that over the past 10 years, they had had over 700 people who had suffered similar injuries, but they had no intention of lowering the temperature of the coffee because it would harm sales.

When the jury made their award, they reduced her share because frankly, she shouldn't have been putting milk in her coffee in her lap. But they were so angry at McDonald's arrogance and contempt for their customers that they awarded her a verdict.

I don't think the McDonald's coffee case is about personal responsibility. It's about corporations and their responsibilities to us.


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I agree with you, and voted that fast food restaurants should NOT be banned. In a related poll, I did vote that junk food should not be served in schools. Adults have the right to make their own decisions, healthy or not but kids need all the help they can get, to make healthy choices.

My DH and I travel a lot. We're either on motorcycles or towing a big trailer and have the dogs with us. Thus, we prefer to eat in the parking lot of a restaurant. Fast food joints are ideal for this. Quick service, portable food, clean restrooms, free parking. We appreciate having those things available. I would like to see some healthier options available. They are starting to appear, if you look carefully.

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I'm for personal responsibility as well. There is too much blaming others for your problems and there are so many frivolous lawsuits over things like this. "Your restaurant made me fat". "I got burned because I chose to hold YOUR hot coffee in my lap while I was driving".

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Couldn't have said it better!

And to add a bit more .... People tend to go to fast food places because they "don't have time" to eat from home. Except, by the time you drive to the fast food place, stand in line, or even worse, sit in the drive-thru line, then drive back home or to work or where ever, you could have fixed yourself a much healthier & cheaper meal at home.

And how many hours do you have to work to pay for that fast food meal? How many hours do you have to work to pay for the gym to work off the fast food? And how many hours do you have to work to pay for medications & doctors bills because you are over weight from eating too much fast food?

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I agree. Unfortunately, it is too easy to quell hunger by driving through. Heck, you don't even have to get out of the car and walk to your food! I don't believe in legislating what should be controlled by personal discipline.

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I saw one of the questions on sparkpeople today was "Should your neighborhood ban fast food?". I said no. The way I look at it, the fast food industry isn't the one that is making us fat and obese. We as individuals are making us fat. we choose to put that crud in our bodies. we choose to go there instead of making healthy meals at home. I know that people are on the run, but you can still choose healthy options from the menu. I think at some point we have to take personal responsibility for the way we are and the choices that we make. I know some factors are out of our control, but the food we choose to put in our mouths. It is about choices and holding ourselves accountable for what we eat, how much we exercise, what type of exercise, and making the choice to live a healthier lifestyle.
what do you think?

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