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3/24/17 3:32 P

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An extra 4 min/mile sounds fine for the conditions you describe (especially if you factor in aid station stops). Many people walk the hills in a 50K and just run the flats and downhills.

When there's soft snow or mud, you have to adjust your stride before you can become efficient. For example, when running downhill, you can take much longer strides and more relaxed landings because you don't have to worry about a hard or careful landing. Instead, you land in a soft slide (on mud or snow) and keep sliding for a few inches!

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3/24/17 12:01 P

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Maybe someday. I don't have that fitness level yet. It might be fun though.

The closest 50k to me is also a very tough one. The HUFF 50k is held every December at a nearby state park. This past year it was Dec. 18th. I did their single 10.8 mile lap option, so that's about a third of what the 50k runners did. There was several inches of snow on the ground and even after all the people in front of me ran through it, it wasn't packed down well. It felt kind of like running on a beach, and not the packed down sand by the water. My per mile times were over four minutes slower than my road pace and it was still much more tiring. I was utterly exhausted after 10.8 miles and amazed at the people who did 50k that day.

A spring ultra-marathon is held at the same park next month, but it only has 50 mile and 100 mile distances. Ouch!


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3/22/17 2:35 P

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I can relate to that! Whenever someone tells me about a race I've never before heard of, my first question: How was the food at the aid stations and the finish line?

Kidding aside, if the food sucks, it's a bad indicator for other aspects of the race.

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3/22/17 12:28 P

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I joke sometimes that I only do the races for the food!!

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3/9/17 5:16 P

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I did the Seneca Creek Greenway 50K this past Saturday. It had an 8.5hr cut off and I came in just under 8hr. Felt good while I was running but it's now been 5 days and I still feel beat up!

The best part: one of the aid stations was serving grilled cheese sandwiches, hot (despite the weather hovering around freezing) and another was serving beer. Now if only I could've got them together :-P

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12/7/16 3:02 P

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I live near Ohio so I do most of the races there, Western Reserve Racing is one of the clubs that I like. Youngstown also puts together a nice race. We have one here in Pennsylvania called Oil Creek 100; the distances are 50k thru 100 miles and they sell out fast, last year the 50k sold out in 30 seconds yes 30 seconds!!

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12/2/16 3:28 P

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Yes, 25Ks are good too. Just long enough to justify real food at the aid stations :-) I've done the HEAT 25K. Tough course but well worth the price ($50).

http://www.mdheatrace.com mdheatrace.com

Which 25Ks have you done that you recommend?

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12/2/16 1:59 P

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Some of the 50k's also have a time limit. I do like the distance but since my knee is in need of surgery I have dialed it back to the 25k. So much more relaxed!!

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11/29/16 9:58 P

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Oooh, Bel Monte looks nice too! Ah, so many 50K races to consider!

Do you have any planned?

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11/29/16 6:37 P

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I was referring to the Bel Monte 50K in Lyndhurst, VA. The HAT run can be okay when the weather cooperates.

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11/29/16 5:03 P

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IPA, You make good points. Speaking of tough, I saw you did HAT. Congrats! Friends of mine have encouraged me to try it but it looks hard. Maybe too hard for me. I presume that's the race you were referring to here?

A friend of mine who does HAT annually told me it was so tough last year - very muddy - that a third of the field didn't finish. Ouch! Maybe that's why it still shows 90 slots open for 2017? I've been told in the past that HAT registration usually fills the same day it opens.

Also, I'm planning on doing Seneca Creek again in 2017 and it's 3 weeks before HAT. On one hand, that sounds like plenty of recovery time but, on the other, that might be more stress than my body can handle! This is first year I've done 2 50Ks but it was one in the spring and one in the fall. Not so sure about two back to back.


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You make a lot of accurate observations.I would only add that some 50K's can be very tough and have stretches where a 15 minute mile is not easy to run. I've crossed ice cold water where my laces became covered in ice and have gone up tough hills that were scarier on the way down with loose rocks causing slips and falls.

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11/22/16 10:02 P

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Anyone interested in 50K races? These are invariably trail races. (I'm not aware of there being a road 50K.) A 50K can be more fun than a shorter trail race because you run so much slower that you don't even feel like it's any effort. (For a 50K with a typical 8-hour cutoff, you just need to do a 15min mile.)

Not only is running easier but talking is easier and drinking is easier. Food is served on the course and the aid stations are a good excuse to stop for several minutes. Stopping to observe something (a frog, a trail marking, a trail shrine, etc.) is considered normal and you don't feel guilty that you're not running. Running is secondary. Walking up the hills or whenever you're tired is perfectly fine.

Finally, post-race recovery is much quicker than, say, a road marathon. And (perhaps I should have put this first) registration is almost always cheaper than a road marathon. Anyone interested?

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