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Thanks for the tips, and books to read. I just found out last week my bs are to high. My Dr. just had a baby, so had to see another Dr. Didn't like her. My husband is on insulin and I never want to get there. I am montoring my sugars and getting to the gym.

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Hi Amy, Love the post. I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me. Please write back.

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Thanks for the valuable info. I am IR also. I will look up that book. Hope all is going well for you. My name is Doll. Nice to meet you. emoticon

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I have increased my exercise, going to large stores such as walmart or even the medical building I use. Once there I take my wheelchair through the space for thirty to sixty minutes. It is not the perfect exercise but for me right now it seems to be an option. I am also using weights for increased strength. Anyone have other ideas I am open. I am waiting to get the book Protein Power thanks for that suggestion. Yolanda

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12 pounds is Great!

My doc has upped my metformin..I now take 2000 per day (1000 at breakfast/1000 at dinner). So far it seems to be helping with weight loss. I still have alot of weight in my belly area...any suggestions how to get rid of it? I do crunches almost every day and exercise regularly. I'm losing weight everywhere but in the belly. Soon I'm going to look like an olive on a toothpick!!

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I've had little to no nausea from the Byetta. I only had annoying nausea the first week on the 10 pen and if I overate. I think I have a pretty tough constitution, though. I've only lost about 12lbs total with it so far, but that's 12lbs more than I probably would have lost without it.

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Good morning
I know you get frustrated because you think you are doing everything right and your body won't cooperate. Everybody is different. What works for me might not work for you. But in general there are a few things to remember. Exercise a minimun of 30 minutes a day. Preferable walking up and down hill. That works your big muscles. Which will help burn blood sugar.
Second: DIET. I use a very simple method of watching what I eat. I balance my meals and snacks. For every 15 carbs I eat, I have 7 grams of protein with it. Learn what the free foods are...green beans, lettuce, tomatoes very low glycemic foods. Go to your library and find a book called..Insulin Resistant Diet. It will tell you how to balance your foods, with the right amount of carbs to protein. The protein slows down the absorbtion of the carbs. Slow rise, slow fall. You will stay more stable and you won't be as hungary all the time.
I hope this helped you. My prayers are with you, for I know this is a struggle. But don't give into it. Fight it, I know you can win.

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Hello I have been working on getting my FBS below 100 but today it topped off at 158. I am very discouraged because I have changed how I eat, I have lost 30 pounds, my cholesterol numbers are down significantly and here I am at 158. I am waiting for the AiC to be processed but am not optimistic right now.

I am encouraged reading past posts and see there are options available in diets and great reading material. I will surely visit this site daily and with all of your help get my blood sugar under control..thanks for being here

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How long did it take yall to get used to the Byetta? I did it for 3 months & never did get over the nausea.. Lost weight, but couldn's stand feeling like that every day!

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Lisa, I sure hope you don't find out your have celiac. If you do, however, we are all here to try to help you get it all figured out and see better health! Take care of yourself and keep us posted.

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Whatagirl - you hang in there! If it is celiac & you go gluten free, you'll feel SO MUCH better! I worked for endocrinologists for years, & we saw many patients with this that did VERY WELL. Prayers!

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Well, I have been over a week now with no grain product. It is hard coming up with ideas of what to eat, especially for breakfast (I don't like eggs, unfortunately).

I did get a directive from my endo, however. The elimination of grains is not only to see how my insulin resistance responds, but also to see how other symptoms I have might be ameliorated. My endo thinks I might have "celiac disease". I'm going in for the antibody test next week. If I test positive (this is yet another autoimmune disordder), I'll have to go GLUTEN free. I guess the good news is that there are a number of gluten free products (breads, bake mixes, etc) on the market now, that I could try. I'm bummed. This is all so high maintenance!
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Hi Lisa,

No, I have not completely cut out grains. I usually will have two slices or Oroweat Double Fiber Bread in the morning. I stopped having white rice, and still hardly ever even eat brown rice, so I am not having a lot of grains, but still do have some. It has been a challenge for me to figure meals out since changing to this new way of eating...meals used to be mostly carbs and some protein and a few veggies here and there. Now, meals are mostly protein, veggies, and a slight amount of carbs. This is very different for sure. I am looking forward to when it seems normal and I am used to it. I guess that is the key...we have to get used to the new ways of eating so that they finally feel normal. I wish you the very best in YOUR new way of eating. emoticon emoticon

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Lisa,

I lost most of the weight I lost before eating a diet lower in carbs than I'm eating now (though now I'm eating tops 130g/day including only one serving of grains per day). It's hard, but like you, I consider it a senstivity. I think the trick is to substitute where possible and you generally just get used to making your meals differently. I'm afraid that I'll have to cut out the majority of the grains I have been eating in order to see the weight loss I want - though I have lost 8lbs since going on the Byetta. Perhaps you can try cutting down for a while and see if that helps.

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Cutting out grains altogether would be tough! I cannot imagine doing that. It's a struggle for me just to get carbs under control. I wish you luck and hope you can find some success without cutting them altogether.

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Hi everyone

I'm back from my visit to SF to see my endocrinologist. Since starting Byetta, I've lost 13 lbs, and he is pleased with that.... but my weight loss has stalled. He looked at my food diary (sparkpeople tracker, printed) and said very plain and simple: NO GRAINS.
He went on to tell me that some insulin resistant type 2 diabetics are so senstive to grain-based carbohydrates, that they have to treat it like an "allergy". My insulin production and weight gain/stall are so sensitive to eating grain-carbs, that he has told me to stop eating grains--- at least if I want to lose the rest of my weight.

He also put me on an additional 5 mg injection of Byetta at bedtime, so that's a total of 25 mg a day.

Here's hoping it works. I cannot imagine a life completely void of bread, but other sparkers insist that it is the way to go for some of us IR diabetics, and that there is even a book out on the subject "Life without Bread". I'd like to read it, and compare it to the insulin resistant diet.... see the similarities.
Is there anyone else out there cutting out bread and rice altogether? I'd be curious to hear how you are doing with that change.
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10/11/08 5:32 A

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Yes, it is easy to follow...I mean it is not complicated. It is hard for someone to go from eating a bazillion carbs every day to eating just 2 servings (15 grams each) only every two hours...being sure to link it with protein...but other than that, it is easy to follow. There are not a bunch of little rules. It is pretty straight forward.

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Just flipping through the book it didn't look too complicated, hoping it's not hard to follow. DO you think it's easy to follow?

Tammy
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Hi Tammy, I've only done this for a couple of days, but I have not been hungry on it, but I have craved sweets. I am told that this will go away soon. I am also having a challenge figuring out dinner...it used to consist of MANY more carbs than now. Remembering to have protein with each carb...even my coffee with creamer...is certainly different, as well. I am having a few almonds with my coffee this morning. emoticon

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With this being your first week of putting the ideas to work, how do you feel? Do you feel like you get plenty to eat? I've heard others talk about the IRD and said they never felt deprived of anything. I know I need to get my carbs under control, but that is easier said than done.

Tammy
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"Tenacity is the quality displayed by someone who just won't quit -- who keeps trying until they reach their goal. Anything really worth doing takes persistence, perseverance, and stubborn determination! I AM a Tenacious Jungle Tiger and these are my survival skills!!"

The best inspiration is not to outdo others, but to outdo ourselves.
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Most people never run far enough on their first wind to find out they've got a second.
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Tammy, the Insulin Resistance Diet does talk a bit about the Glycemic Index a bit, and the authors are certainly aware of it as they write. I have really gotten so much from this book. I was diagnosed with type 2 this past January, and have been scouring books for information, so I, too, am aware of the Glycemic Index. I feel that learning all that we can about all that we can is so good. The IRD (Insulin Resistance Diet) sort of brings it all together for me.

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Welcome Cindy! So glad you found us. I have the diet book, but have not started reading it yet, I am still working on getting through "what you need to know to kep diabetes away - pre diabetes". It talks about the glycemic index of foods...does the diet book as well?

Jump right in, post often...looking forward to getting to know you.

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"Tenacity is the quality displayed by someone who just won't quit -- who keeps trying until they reach their goal. Anything really worth doing takes persistence, perseverance, and stubborn determination! I AM a Tenacious Jungle Tiger and these are my survival skills!!"

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Hi Everyone! My name is Cindy, and I have been on SP for about a week or so now. By coincidence, I saw in another Spark Team thread that this thread exists. Well, I am about 3/4 through "The Insulin Resistance Diet" and just started implementing its principals today...and now I have found all of you!!! I am very excited to have a place to come where all of you will already know what I am talking about when I say that I am insulin resistant. Not many people seem to know about it. I am so happy to have found you!!! emoticon

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The authors are Cheryle R. Hart, MD and Mary Kay Grossman, RD

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Here is the direct link to the book on amazon.com

http://www.amazon.com/Insulin-Resistance
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Its absolutely essential (in my opinion) for anyone with insulin resistance. It REALLY works...My sister is the one that introduced me to it, when my niece was diagnosed with it. She knew a woman from her church that had full blown diabetes, and after being on the IRD for a couple months, was able to get off of her medication! If you are faithful to it, it will really help. Good luck ladies!

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Right on, Rebecca-- My byetta weight loss has also been slow, but at least, like you say, it's all going in the right direction for the first time in ages.
Amy and others... who is the author of the Insulin Resistance Diet book? I have a couple Barnes and Noble gift cards to spend,and am growing weary of the south beach recipes....

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For parties and outings...keep a small package of lean beef jerky in your purse...then you can dive right into a small brownie or something at a picnic and never feel like you shouldn't! I used to keep an organic granola bar and a stick of jerky in my purse at all times, just in case I was out an about at snack time.

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exactly! That's why I wanted to give it a real try and forgo SB for a bit....it seems like something that one would be able to follow fairly easily for a lifetime. You can go anywhere - a party, picnic etc and not feel deprived or stand out.

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The GREAT thing about the insulin resistance diet, is your not "giving up" any foods. That way it is easy to make it a LIFE change. It is all about portion control and linking carbs with protien. I can still have chocolate ice cream (1/2 cup) I just throw in some walnuts with it. Its wonderful.

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He is my God, and I will praise Him;
My fatherís God, and I will exalt Him.
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I think I'll look for that book at the library and see what it has to offer. I think the first 2 weeks of the SB diet are REALLY hard...I love fruit though and it was hard not to eat any fruit at all. It does work though, if you can stick with it.

Tammy
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I, too, read and love The Insulin Resistance Diet. I'm still working on the balancing thing - I am still eating too many carbs *sigh* ... but I'm getting there!

My dr. suggested South Beach....and I'm really not into it...so I was elated when I was told about The I/R Diet.

Hope you like it too!

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CILYSSA -
I have read the Insulin Resistance Diet, it is the only eating plan on the planet that has ever worked for me! Have you had a chance to read it yet? I have not been faithfull to it for about 6 months, but when I first got it, my husband did it with me. We both lost over 15lbs in about a month! I was full of energy and my depression and mood swings were pretty much non-existant! My cholesterol went down as well. It is wonderful! I am hoping to get back on it, now that I am recommitting to my health. I am hoping that Spark is the thing that I need to keep me motivated. Let me know what you think of the book!

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My fatherís God, and I will exalt Him.
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Byetta is shots (I'm on it and so is at least one other person here). It's 2x a day before breakfast and dinner. I thought that I would hate the shots, but I actually don't mind. And the scale's actually moving in the right direction, slowly but surely. I should say that have a pretty decent constitution, so I haven't had the nausea they say comes with it - unless I eat too much. I also still take Metformin. I think that the Byetta for me has actually calmed some of the gastrointestinal "delights" that the Met caused from time to time.

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Oh wow...a year? Dang, I was ready to quit with just being sick for a little over a week. Can't say that I blame you for stopping it. If you learn anything worth sharing from your book, please do share.

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I stuck it out with Metformin for a little over a year. I was ALWAYS sick. It sucked. But now I am starting to get severe headaches and I'm dizzy a lot. I just went to the library and got the Insulin Resistance Diet book. I am going to read it and hopefully finish it before I go back to my doctor.

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Now my troubles are going to have troubles with me!"
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I think Byetta is shots, but don't know for sure...I don't take it. I was really sick when I first started taking my metformin also..it took a good week to 9 days for me to quit being sick at my stomach and for the diarrhea and gas to settle down. I was at the point of stopping it, but my husband talked me into giving it just a couple more days...I'm glad I stuck it out because I really think it's helping me. Good luck to ya.

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Is Byetta a shot or pills? I am going to a nutritionist on Wednesday. I also need to go see my doctor about going back on Metformin. I stopped taking it because I felt so terribly sick while taking it...I decided to take my chances. I gained 40 pounds since I stopped taking it! (About 1 1/2 years) How often do you need to "take" Byetta? I don't know that I could give myself shots....
I think I need to do some serious research on Insulin Resistance. It seems I have no idea what it is even though I was diagnosed with it about 5 years ago! Thanks for this group! I am excited to join!

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I am very happy with my new treatment and my new doc...not only am I feeling a little better and have more energy, but I have lost 8 pounds in 4 weeks. That is the first time in, well, I don't know how long, that I have had weight loss 4 weeks in a row. I'm thrilled.

I'm so sorry to hear your Mom is up to 4 shots a day, but am glad she is getting some control. I hope she gets some great information from the nutritionist.

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Tammy, I hope that your doctors will understand- most should know that thyroid conditions can cause many problems. Good luck to you- and hang in there!

Rebecanola- Congratulations! You sound like you are doing well on the Byetta! I am very happy to read you are tolerating it. My mom is now on FOUR insulin shots a day...poor mom...but it's finally controlling her levels (which were at 300+ sometimes! She was so frustrated). She's going to see a nutritionist too.

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I got my labs done last week and my tsh was up by 1 point, so my doctor changed my synthroid again. I am now seeing a new doctor and I think she is going to be much more aggressive with treatment. She upped me to 75mcg to alternate with 50 mcg. She also put me on name brand synthroid instead of generics. She told me to keep on taking my metformin twice a day and didn't see a reason to do finger pricks at this time.

I do print out my food and exercise logs when I go to the doctor. I don't want to sit there and listen to them preach to me about diet and exercise when I'm already doing it. I want them to realize that maybe it's not my eating habits that is causing me to not lose weight.



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Sounds like it's going great! I have always thought to print out my food tracker or exercise log for my doctor, but I always end up forgetting. I think they need to see that we really ARE trying and making great efforts to monitor our health.
I also have experienced little plateaus and fluctuations during that T.O.M., but it alwyas drops back down after that week. I'm not very good at giving myself the injections- I get bruising now and then, but I was encouraged when my doc called and said to "hang in there; the longer you use Byetta, the more effective it will be and the more results you will see". I guess that's worth a bruise or two. A1C-- I'm excited to hear what mine is- labs not back yet.

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I went to the counselor today and brought 2 weeks worth of my SP food journal. Basically, she said that I was doing well with food and exercise and predictably set me up with a blood glucose meter to test for a while. My HbA1c test was almost a full percentage below what it was when I went to the doctor last and she put me on the Byetta. (Then it was 6.1%) I don't know how useful all this will be - and I hate all the pricking myself with things - I just want answers and help. My weight is now up a couple pounds again, but I'm heading into TOM so that's to be expected. I don't really think that I'll need to see a counselor on the regular, but will follow up with her in a couple weeks.

In any case, let's hope the work I am doing will yield some positive results!

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Rebecca, great to hear it's going well. I'm not surprised to hear of your 2.2. lb loss! I had the intention of not weighing myself for a week after starting the Byetta, but I broke down and weighed myself 2 days later: was already a pound down! I couldn't believe it. I figured it was a fluke, or water (and it might have been), but it's been slowly coming off ever since.

After my initial diagnosis of T2, I was referred to a diabetic counselor. She set me up with a glucometer, showed me how to use it, gave me goal ranges for my blood sugar levels, and a little info on what to eat/what not to eat. I went back one or two times, but since I was also paying big bucks to see an out-of-area endocrinologist for my thyroid disease, I stopped going to the diabetic counselor and just referred all my diabetes questions to my endocrinologist (he's the one who prescribed the Byetta, when my Metformin alone wasn't doin' it!).

I kinda agree that if you are already familiar with checking blood sugars, eating low carb, etc, the diabetic counselor might not be someone you will find you need to visit on a regular basis.

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Lisa - glad you had a good vacation. I just went on vacation a month ago and feel like I need another one. Ugh. The Byetta seems to be going pretty well. I have had little to no nausea since the first day, just a couple of bouts of low grade nausea, which I'm not sure were because of the Byetta. It also seems to counteract the "excessive" toilet visits that sometimes the Metformin gives me, which is good. I'm a bit wary of making this determination so quickly, but I got a new scale last Wednesday and weighed myself Thursday AM. Today, I weighed (to be my "regular" weigh in day) and I was 2.2lbs lighter. That could just be regular fluctuation, so we'll see next week. It does seem to be helping me not be so preoccupied with hunger.

I have an appointment with a diabetes nutrition educator next Monday, and I'm wondering if I should bother at all. I don't want to waste my money (have a pay down account on my insurance) - especially since the Byetta is so pricy - if they're just going to tell me a bunch of stuff I know already. Has anyone met with someone like that, and if so has it helped you?

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Hello all! just returned from a much-needed vacatioin to see my brother and neice in Seattle. I did log on to track food, but am just now geting around to my teams.

TLAIR0468: The gas and diarreah are common with metformin. I was taking all 3 tabs (1500 mg total) of XR glucophage at night, just before bed. I'd wake up with quite a problem that often had me running late to work. I don't know why I never mentioned it to my endo before, but when I started the byetta, he suggested taking one tab with each meal. Now I have hardly any gasteronintestinal symptoms.

Rebecanola: How is the Byetta going? I'm still a little "nervous" about that initial needle-contact, and have even had a couple of injections that resulted in bruising (thank goodness I'm not a nurse!). But all in all, I'm getting used to it, and have lost 8 lbs in a month's time. The weight I have been trying to lose is pretty stubborn weight, like you described, so it's very exciting to see it finally coming off! Did you have any nausea?

Rainbow: I am jealous of your new kitchen! Mine is the one room in the house that really needs some updating. I love to cook, so a remodled kitchen would be a dream! Hope you are enjoying it to the max!

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I'm almost 60 so I don't think we're twins. I gained over 50 lbs. the 3 years I was depressed and not allowed to go to a doctor. Nine years ago my 25 year old son blew his brains out with a shotgun. I had many occasions where I turned to food for comfort.
I'm now disabled and just trying to keep my head above water, so to speak.
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Hey team,

Just need to send a 'success' to the people who've helped me so much. I remodeled my kitchen 5/21-6/21 and now am so inspired to cook with my new PCOS cooking books-it's just been great. I haven't seen a change in the scale, but I know I need to add strength training to really see a difference, and it'll be a gradual loss if I don't add the weights. But still, eating fresh wild salmon and whole wheat pasta with tons of fresh local veggies...it's sublime and really encourages me to think I'll be able to carry this into the school year.

Good luck to all! Thanks for letting me share!

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Lisa - I'm glad to hear of your success so far with Byetta. My doctor has just prescribed it. I hate the idea of injecting it, so I'm a little scared. I've been taking 1000mg of Metformin for a year for IR (not diabetic yet, have low to normal blood sugars). I've also been eating right, exercising at least 4 days/week and counting calories for 2 years and have lost very little. In the past year and a half, I've netted pretty much no loss. I'm not perfect, but with all my trying I feel like I should have lost something more significant. I'm convinced there's something up with my thyroid, but the endo says no (even though my numbers rollercoaster) and that I should "eat less pie and fast food". Meanwhile I cut out refined sugars five years ago, and rarely set foot in a McD's. Sigh. I'm starting the Byetta this coming Sunday in conjunction with my Met. I hope it helps - all I'm trying to do is lose a few pounds and prevent Diabetes. I had lost over 60 pounds a few years ago, was doing great, keeping it off, then ballooned 30+ pounds in a short time, then gained 10 more and it has been next to impossible to lose. I've been just so frustrated. I really hope that this spurs something; if nothing else maybe it'll just take away my appetite. Sorry for the rambling...

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Hi Lisa! Thanks for the welcome. Yes, it does sound like we may be long lost twins. You sound like you may finally have some control with the meds you are taking. I need to learn more patience...I have one of the best endo's in town, but I just want him to 'make it all better'...I don't want to wait. haha

I am on my 4th day with the metformin and I think, especially early mornings, that my blood sugar may be too low. Before I gained weight I had low blood sugar issues as well. When I first wake up I take my synthroid and can't eat for 2 hours (a routine I have gotten quite used to), but now by the time that two hours is up, I have a pretty bad headache, am a bit dizzy and see 'stars' (like the stars you see when your blood pressure is really high) and this has been for the last 3 days in a row. The doc that started me on the metformin and my endo are NOT the same doc. When I see my endo in a couple of weeks I will give him all the notes from the other specialist.

I have not been told to test my blood sugar and don't want to get started with the finger pricks unless I have to.

I am also (for the last 2 days) having some diarrhea...which I know is a side effect of the metformin..once I get used to it, will that go away?

I tell you all that to ask: Do you think being on the metformin is something I should notify my endo of NOW instead of waiting for my next appointment. I will NOT be following up with the specialist...she did all of this through my work clinic and so the doctor here at my job will follow up with the IR diagnosis.

I am sure when I tell my endo about all of this, he is going to want to manage the IR and the metformin himself...he's way too thorough and too much of a perfectionist to NOT want to manage it himself. I just don't know if it's something that can wait or if I should let him know now.



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Welcome, Freedafagre and TLAIR0468!

FREIDAGAGRE: I too gained a ton of weight while being treated for depression and panic disorder. The meds I was taking didn't help the condition, but only made me fat and more tired. I eventually found out (long story) that the underlying cause was my thyroid: Synthroid and cytomel have erased my depression and panic, but have only helped me lose a little weight. The type2 and IR continues to pose challenges to weight loss, but I seem to be responding to the Byetta (taking metformin too).

TLAIR0468: are you my missing twin? lol! Your post mirrors my experience... used to be thin, thyroid, gained weight, lost some once on thyroid meds... but not enough, began Metformin.... still trying to lose.... referred to endocrinologist... doing EVERYTHING to lose (intense cardio with trainer, strength training, low carbing)etc.

For me, the difference has been the addition of Byetta to my Synthroid/cytomel/Metformin regimine.
I've lost 7.5 lbs in 3 weeks, and figure by the end of the month, I'll have lost around 8 pounds: about 2 pounds per week.
I'll take that! For the first time in a long time, the "work" is "working"!

ANyway, this is a great team in that we all seem to have the same weird metabolic response to food and resistance to weight loss. I think the exercise is super important! Keep up with what you are doing!
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Dear Friends,
This my first time with this group but I have been diabetic for 10 years. I gained up to 287; now 277. I haven't lost anything since May. I use synthroid, Bayetta, and Insulin. My medicine for bipolar causes me to gain weight. I swim 30 minutes a day and test 3 or 4 times a day. I think the bread thing is true for me too. Tlair0468 check your blood sugar. Tlair0468 emoticon

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Hi! I just found out 2 days ago that I am insulin resistant. As of 2 days ago, I knew exactly 'nothing' about it..so I am just now in learning mode. Frankly, after reading through some of the threads on this team, I have to say, you guys scare the hell out of me. I've read some people taking 6 shots a day, 4 finger pricks, exercising 90 minutes a day, every day, no breads/pastas. Oh my, very scary.

I have Hashimotos and take syntroid daily. All of my weight gain started 4 years ago. Prior to that I was 120 lb, size 6, full of energy. Within a year I weighed 198, size 14-16 and would have slept 20 of 24 hours. The synthroid has helped many aspects, but I just can't seem to lose anymore weight. I have lost 20 pounds so far, but basically nothing in the last 18 months.

I went to a doctor that specializes in bariatrics/metabolism/nutrition because I truly believed I was doing everything I should be doing to lose weight. She confirmed that I was. I take spinning classes once a week, do interval training twice a week, weight lifting class once a week and on the rest of the days I walk or ride my bike at least 60 minutes. I keep my calories between 12-1400, try to keep my fat below 30-35 (sometimes I miss that mark), try to keep my protein around 75 and try to keep my carbs at about 100.

The specialist started me on metformin (I took my first dose yesterday). I tell you all this because I'm just wondering...what should I expect now? I don't test my blood sugar, I don't do shots. I really don't feel bad from being IR..well, I don't know if I do because I blame alot of stuff on my hashimotos (mood swings, dry skin, tired, hair falling out, etc). I just recently had my synthroid increased, but my numbers are pretty good. Most of my weight is in my torso...my arms and legs are fairly slender.

Any suggestions on what I can do to increase my chances of getting rid of this weight? I am reading everything I can find, but sometimes all the printed literature in the world is no substitute for good, old fashioned 'been there done that' experience. I'm all ears!!

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I have just begun Byetta injections after years of taking Metformin (1500 mg Glucophage xr- daily). While it has helped a little to keep my BG levels in check, It wasn't enough. I was starting to wake up with morning-fasting highs, and spiking even after something as "friendly" as a slice of whole wheat toast. If I eat bread of ANY kind, I just gain weight. I also get hungry WHEN I'm eating, and AFTER I eat! Until I started the Byetta, I don't think I even knew what feeling "satisfied" or "full" felt like. The appetite/hunger suppression of this drug is AMAZING! For me, it's like someone who is super near-sighted finally getting a proper pair of glasses and realizing for the first time they could SEE! For the first time in years, I finally know what it feels like to be satiated. I eat very small portions post-injection, and then I don't even THINK about eating more, snacking, grazing, etc. Often I cannot even finish my small portions. My BG levels are fantastic. I still take the Metformin with the Byetta (Now I split up my 3 500mg tabs and take one at each meal). I inject prior to breakfast and dinner. It's too early to see if I'm going to lose any substantial weight (I've only been on it a couple of days), but I am feeling hopeful!

PS: I was super freaked about the nausea side-effect... I bought ginger capsules, and I take two of those just before my injection. Right after the injection, I sip a cup of non-sweetened ginger tea, and I wear anti-nausea wristbands. I was CERTAIN I'd be one to get nausea, as I can't even sit in a car for more than an hour without feeling like I need to hurl... but so far... NO NAUSEA!! I am so psyched!
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Wow, lots of common ground with many of you here- first off, I did T-Tapp MORE last year, I am now doing Curves, but implement T-Tapp chair whenever I can (like at work where I sit on my butt all day long). I also am due for a full hysterectomy, but due to my size (400+ lbs), it's too high risk to go there at the moment. I'm working on getting my weight down so I can get everything removed.

I also notice my blood sugars spike up whenever I eat anything that is starchy (had a burger and fries last week when out with friends...big no no on the fries- my blood sugars skyrocketed). I am monitoring my glucose levels although I am not Type 2 yet, because my endo wants to possibly try me on Byetta since Metformin messed my stomach up. Only problem is, Byetta does the same. Any advice? Can't go on Actos/Avandia bc of the weight gain/swelling issues. Ugh!

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In what way did metformin bother your heart and blood pressure? I don't seem to be helped with any weight loss with metformin (my doctor says it's a big help in that area). I was taking 500 mg. 2x a day and she changed it recently to 1000 mg. 2x a day. I think that's way too much.

My father and some of my half-brothers died of heart attacks so I'm always wondering about things like this. I did have a treadmill test done and a coronary heart scan done. Both of them were excellent.

I do have bp of about 135/85. Maybe if I drop the metformin I won't need the bp meds.

I have an appt with her tomorrow and I'm going to bring these issues up.

Thanks for the heads-up.

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I am new to this group and have been a Type 2 Diabetic for about 4 years. I am on Metformin, but it doesn't help me lose weight. I finally got serious about weight loss and getting my health under control the first of this year.

What really helped me was starting with weight lifting- 6 of 7 days. I started with a very simple and quick program by Jorge Cruise called "8 minutes in the morning" and I have graduated to his 12 second Sequence which is 2 times a week for 20 minutes. Since April I have also been riding a stationery bike for 30-45 minutes a day, most days. I can read while I bike. The exercise plan has done for me what low carb and cutting back on calories alone did not do.

I am no longer short of breath and look and feel so much better. People say I look happy.

I have the book "The Insulin-Resistance Diet" on order.

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Lisa,

Thanks for the insight about metaformin. I saw my doc again Friday and she was happy about my weight loss, and asked me to keep losing and come back in a month, she wants to see if I can lose the weight without metaformin, so I'm encouraged. She was disappointed that I only work out 3 days a week, she said, "What are you doing for the other four days a week? Just sitting around??" I wanted to say, "Writing lesson plans until 6pm, grading papers until 7:30, eating dinner, and falling asleep at 9pm!" Although I've been teaching for 4 years, I still am at school 2-3 hours after the kids leave daily. Oh well.

I am encouraged by your commitment to exercising in the summer. I'm huge into routine, so if I can start a kick-ass exercise/eating plan in the summer, I'll most likely carry it into the school year. I just need to find a pool now...I need to lose 30 more pounds to be a healthy weight to get pregnant. I know I can do it, but I don't remember ever being that light, so it's scary!!

Thanks for sharing, Lisa!!
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I think that's cool that you have that support network of teachers who are willing to take part in something fun to kick-start that motivation to lose. As for metaformin, it may help my Blood sugar levels, but it hasn't helped me lose any weight. Spending time in the summer at the gym, eating right, (more time to prepare the right low GI/low carb foods), sleeping more (I think added sleep/napping actually helps me with weight loss) and laying off staff room junk is the only hope for me. I dread the start of the school year.... not for the teaching or the kids, but for the knowledge that my pounds will slowly creep back on.
*sigh*
10 more days, tho!!
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Lisa,

Thanks for sharing your "summer shedding" of pounds, I'm glad I'm not the only teacher to have the same experience! I can focus on eating low GI foods and exercising much more in the summer, even with teaching summer school!

My doctor offered to put me on metformin, but I didn't understand what metformin could do that eating low GI couldn't, so I'm researching and having my nurse practitioner research for me, as well. So far, as I'm focusing, I'm having success losing weight simply by eating well. I am competing against 10 other teachers for a "biggest loser" ending June 6th-the winner gets $300! I'm in the lead, and have to keep working! We can do it!!

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Mouriana, Thanks for that info. Oddly enough, my personal experience is very consistent with what you/your endo says... I am a teacher, and once school is out every summer, I have all kinds of time to devote to my health and fitness. I eat better, I eat less... (less stress-related eating), and I do WAY more daily cardio. As a result, I always lose weight in the summer.... begin the school year looking fabulous, and then gain everything back by June. It's terrible. I have taken Glucopahge XR, along with lipitor and Synthoid/Cytomel for years.... as well as fish oil, GTF chromium, Cinnamon bark, and fiber supplements (Gluconnanan). I periodically stop eating ALL bread/starches, and only then can I lose a little weight. But as soon as I incorporate bread back into my diet (and even then it's just the occassional whole wheat pita and some brown rice), I get fat. My endocrinologist (Nathan Becker, MD, UCSF Medical) is starting me on Byetta next month. Has anyone here had any success with Byetta, insofar as blood glucose/insulin regulation, and weight loss? UGH. I hate my mitochondria!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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4/13/08 9:29 P

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My endo taught me a lot about IR...most of the time it is caused by metabolic syndrome (or something like that) where there is a genetic mutation that causes the mitochondria in the cells (that controls your metabolism) to only work at 60% of normal, which causes weight gain, which makes us susceptible to insulin resistance, which causes too much insulin in the system to lock fat into cells, which causes MORE weight gain, and the cycle continues. HOWEVER, my doctor says that they have done research that finds that 90 minutes of cardio exercise EVERY DAY (I know, that's a hugely evil amount) can kickstart the mitochondria and force the metabolism up to normal. That combined with the advice here to build up lean muscle could actually make a pretty big difference I think!

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I have been following the PROTEIN POWER eating & exercise plan and have dropped 19 pounds in 10 weeks, glucose went from 119 to 99, and cholesterol from 180 to 166.

It is actually about retraining your body on how to balance carbohydrates (insulin release) and proteins (glycogen sp?). I understood what insulin resistance was technically, but this book helped me do something about it. Maybe I got lucky and got it just in the nick of time, but I believe strongly in this approach.

Do I get to eat all the things I love? No, however, after a week or two, the cravings for those carbohydrates (breads, pasta, white rice) starts to disappear and I have added alot of variety in the vegetables I eat. Can't live on salad alone, right?

Anyway, hope this might help someone.



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My doctor told me that I needed to do cardio and strength training. Strength training your muscles makes them draw more of our nutrients and sugars towards them instead of storing as fat. I also got some further confirmation on this in the book "PROTEIN POWER"...worth reading.

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Angie,did she tell you what type? I know walking works on those areas but was there anything else.

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Sounds like I need to dust off the treadmill emoticon

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I love your quote... that's so true!!!! ;)

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Thanks for all this info. I was getting ready to try T-Tapp since I heard that it will bring your glucose down (recently dx diabetic in Nov 2007). Info on T-Tapp can be found here: www.t-tapp.com



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I went ONE day without exercising and gave myself ONE large eating out meal. It made my blood sugar go sky high!!! I have noticed that if my blood sugar is up, I can get on the treadmill and it immediately starts going down. I am trying desperately to stay off diabetes type two medications as they affected my liver and metformin became hard on my heart. My blood pressure has returned to normal since going off the metformin. I finally had a hysterectomy with the real reason being PCOS. I have lost almost twenty pounds in five weeks since my surgery. It seems to make a huge difference in my ability to lose weight. I could not lose weight for nothing before having my ovaries removed.

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chuckels my endro said a similor deal then took it back when i told him how many miles a day i walked/ran/jogged and how much I swam

his next comment was, try there herbs they might help make the metformin work better for you .. .chuckles

cardio and strength might help get the numbers down for some people, but not for everyone it does appear.


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When I saw her, she said to try to do exercises using the larger muscles of the body (thighs, buttocks) as you will use up the glycogen stores quicker and that helps to lose weight when you have insulin resistance.

Makes sense to me!

Hope you all had a wonderful day and have a great 4th!

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