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HEY:
That's a great deal for a Cross Check if it fits you. Somewhat weird geometry though, 52cm st with a 55cm tt...

Me, I'd get the Cross Check, with both sets of tires. Throw the knobbies on, then take bike to dirt and go play! Those winter trail rides that you like will be even more fun on this bike!

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Chi has been extolling the virtues of cross bikes for a while now and I see the logic.

I'm not doing much riding now because of my injuries which "unfortunately" leaves me time to do things like browse bike shops.

Yesterday I had the chance to ride a Surly Cross Check. Even in my addled condition I was able to take the Surly out for a slow 10 mile test ride. It was the most comfortable (steel frame, ftw) and stable bike I've ever ridden; although not the lightest or fastest but who cares since I can't stand up to pedal at this point anyway (knee). I was very tempted to buy it on the spot and still may at some point.

The Surly is the the army Jeep of bikes. You will rarely see them listed used as most people keep them forever.

I've seen 2008s advertised on the internet for about $950.

This will now be my standard answer to "what bike should I buy?"

BTW ... after yesterday and as I was writing this I came across this:

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Divine providence I think ... btw, check out the wheelset on the bike above.

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I am going to meet up with DAISEYDUCK and give her old trek a shot - if it works out - I will be writing her a check! gotta love spark friends! If not, I will definitely be printing out this thread and driving all the local bike shop's CRAZY! The more you guys write the more geared up I get!

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6/22/09 10:44 A

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Dani:
If you're looking for a roadbike-stylie bike then as DRC2205 says, you can't go far wrong with a cyclocross bike. You generally get them for cheaper than a comparably specc'd roadbike because the bike's generally tougher, so it's made of heavier stuff. Bike economics 101 - when it comes to weight, you always pay more for less.

CX bikes are also generally specc'd better than the equivalent roadbike and will take a beating - trust me, I beat on my CX bike all the time. A decent entry-level CX bike will set you back in the $700s. Once you get past the sticker shock (and I agree with GIANT-STEPS about bikes being better value now than back then) and go in the direction of a CX bike, it's the only bike you'll ever need.

I actually think that CX bikes fill the "sport touring" niche now. Last summer when my CX bike went from a criterium race to a fully loaded touring bike in a week...

John:
Should have got that CX bike my friend! emoticon

Edited by: WONGERCHI at: 6/22/2009 (10:47)
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Back when I worked in and ran bicycle shops mountain bikes were new and not popular yet. Entry level bikes were called "sport touring" models. They had geometry and ride between that of a racing and touring bike. They were such great bikes for most of our customers. You could throw a set of light wheels on them and contest a criterium on them and they had eyelets so you could put a rack and a triple on them and tour the Alps. It was a bike that could do it all.

Now hybrids fill this nitch. I miss the old sport tourers but I have to admit that hybrids are a good choice too. My wife has both a racing bike and a cruiser and wanted something in between. She had an old hybrid that her daughter took to college so we got a new hybrid for those in-between rides that are too long for the cruiser but too short to go to the trouble of getting out her racing bike. Our LBS sold us a Trek 7000 for $359. It is on the heavy side but it has a triple and it rides far better than a cheap bike has any right to. I wouldn't want to ride a century on it (though with a few improvements it would be fine) but it is a heck of a value.

I started working in bike shops in 1982 and at the time our cheapest bike was a steel rimed sport touring bike for $180, the next model up with alloy rims and a step up in components would set you back $200. $359 in 1982 dollars is only $163 so it is cheaper than the cheapest bike I carried when I started out. The Trek has alloy rims, index shifting, a triple, and a much better frame and brakes. When cyclists complain about prices I like to point out that bicycles are probably a better deal now than they ever have been.

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Welcome to the addiction called cycling...

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Dani Wongerchi and everyone I dont know whats wrong with me I want to buy another bike so I have 2 my road and another one that I can take on all terrain but not a mountain bike

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John thanks for that tip! I'm sure I would have heard the pop and ran myself right off the path - into the grass - and knowing the paths I take normally, right into a pond!

DRC a touring bike sounds good - I like any part where you say it is normally cheaper than a road bike! Though I did ride a trek at the old schwinn shop in my home town recently that was only like $475 - the guy said it was a road bike... My mother almost had a fit at that price though so we left to 'shop around.'

Queen Poppins get out there and ride then!!! See above comment about the trek in town that was $475 (ish) and the guy the other day had me ride a Giant something or other that was $720... So they are out there for under a thousand it seems!

Wongerchi I will keep that in mind about the seat - you see the big squishy one and assume that would be better, but I understand what you are saying... those smaller firmer seats look scarier but it seems that my butt will feel bruised no matter what I ride! gonna need to try the shorts...

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Dani- I bought a road cyclosportive more of a road bike than a cyclocross I love it except, I tried going on a bike route last Sunday and it was too rough for my road bike. When your tire rides over a pebble or any small twig you'll hear a popping sound and when your riding fast on the road it throws you off balance for a few seconds its scary the first time it happens. That being said I'm hooked on the road. I'm wanting a second bike heavier duty bike to ride on rougher paths, but not a mountain bike.

I spent with tax total of $1800. for my Argon18 they took all body measurements and odered it custom buit for me.

I better just stay on the road, and away from the bike paths.

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I thought I'd posted a comment here awhile back, but apparently it got lost in Spark cyberspace...

Two types of bikes to consider: First is the cyclocross. This is different from the hybrid cross. It's designed for a type of racing that includes trails, grass, dirt, and some obstacles. But it has the curved handlebars and positioning that is closer to that of a road bike than a hybrid or a mountain bike. WONGERCHI can probably tell you more information, but I can tell you my first adult bike was a cyclocross 10 years ago, and I still love it. I have since bought a poseur bike (LOL) but still use my CX as a commuter bike.

Second is a touring bike. Designed to be a comfortable ride over long distances. Also has the curved handlebars and positioning that is closer to that of a road bike. You can get panniers etc for it so you can use it for some day trips and running errands.

Both can be found for both more and less money than a pure road bike, but both are a little more hardy--and can withstand the trails and dirt roads, or packed gravel--as opposed to a pure road bike.

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Now I REALLY want to get out and ride -- even if it is still my Mary Poppins Hybrid ;-) But while we're partially on the topic of cost... Sounds like it may be possible to get a decent road bike for less than a million bucks? Is that true? Under a thousand? What are same models that I might be able to look at (sooner than I thought) in that "lower" price range ?

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You sound a lot like my husband. He loves refurbishing old beat-up bikes and is so happy riding his $12 garage sale find! Flies right on by the guys in the bike jerseys! Loves to dress it down - very plain shorts and t-shirts... he's just out for the love of biking.
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In cycling it is far more the engine (you) than the bike.

Back when I raced I had an ugly beater bike; it was actually a really nice bike; it just wasn't pretty. I used to love to chase down poseurs. They would usually speed up a bit when they saw me coming behind them and be surprised when I caught them. To increase their surprise I'd take a couple of good breaths just before I pulled aside so I could sound like I wasn't even breathing hard. I'd say, "Nice day for a ride" then drop them like a bad habit.

I was such a stinker.

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Dani I have one of each types of bike. A hybrid upright that I use when my hubby rides along as he can't quite keep up with me. I also have a road bike.
Neither one are so called high end... but they do what I need them to do. I average 30-40 miles a ride on my road. It's a Dawes lightening sport, I bought it at LBS for a little under $500 one of my procycling "friend" ride's an $8,000 Cervelo bike, I have no problem keepimg up with him. Most of the time he's keeping up with me. emoticon Good luck

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Dani:
Sorry to hear about your experience with LBSs - I'd say keep trying! The more bikes you ride the better, and the more LBSs you try the better. There are several shops here that I won't go to again. Keep at it though, remember the first time you bought running shoes? The more LBSs you hit, the more you'll know your needs and the more opinions you have to compare. That said, if you can find a friend who cycles to go with you to a shop then you have an advantage. Otherwise, listen, learn, and if something doesn't feel right to you, ask tons of questions, or ask on here.

You have managed to nail the distinction between a hybrid and a proper roadbike on the head. I personally hate riding a hybrid - to me they mate the worst characteristics of a roadbike with those of a mountain bike. And an upright Mary Poppins (love that, thanks for the chuckle!) position, bleurgh.

Given the choice, it's a roadbike for me, no questions asked. If you keep cycling, you'll find that it has a steeper improvement curve than running so you'll get better faster (as you know, running has that whole high-impact thing, cycling doesn't). What happens then is that you grow out of your hybrid and find yourself eyeing up the roadbikes. If you spend a bit more coin and get an entry-level roadbike in the beginning, then the upgrade-itis doesn't hit you as hard...

$720 for a roadbike is pretty good. Butt comfort comes with a good pair of cycling shorts and a saddle which isn't too plush. Those huge saddles and seatpost shocks that you normally find stock on a hybrid or "cruiser" bike are, in my opinion, useless. Properly inflated tires are your main source of shock absorption and you want a saddle that's firm so that it supports you not something that you sink into. Sinking into a saddle results in pressure points forming that shouldn't otherwise be there - not fun.



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Jim thank you so much for the offer! If Peggy's trek doesn't seem like the right fit I will definitely take you up on that! I could use a road trip!

I'm all revved up now! Can't wait to get started! Too bad the weather has been a mess around here :(

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queen well put!! i dont normally spend this kind of money on a 'hobby' of any kind and i gawk at buying any piece of clothing (aside from my running shoes) if it is over $25... so I want to get it right. If this is too upright... I am afraid I will want better faster sooner ;) as you are saying! one of our lovely spark buddies has offered to loan me a trek she is trying to sell to see if I like that. . . so I think i'll give that a try. gotta love spark you guys are awesome!!

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I have two comments from a real amateur -- not expert in anything about biking except my own growing enthusiasm for it.
First- when I ride around the highways and country roads out here on my upright Cypress DX, I actually do feel like the little ol' lady with a kitten in her basket. . . though intellectually I know I'm riding faster and working harder than she is ;-) But that's one of the reasons I want to upgrade to a road bike eventually, because I feel like I could get more power with that posture, and go faster on the skinnier tires. HOWEVER, I have yet to experiment with quicker paced pedaling, so we'll see.
I liked the upright position at first, since I hadn't biked in years. Now, I'm not so sure. This sounds like the point you're pondering, too, Dani. . . And my experience says, think hard about that
Second: I'm just going to repeat a question I've posted elsewhere and see if I get a response from anyone on this thread. I don't know any cyclists around here, and I'm wondering if anybody out there knows of a good LBS anywhere between Bakersfield and Fresno, CA . There's a little local bike shop near me, but I don't think it's "my" bike shop; there's only one guy there, and so far I'm not
overwhelmed ;-) Anybody out there have any biking connections in the Central Valley ?

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Take a trip to Oshkosh, WI and I'll walk in with you on my 2 bike shops in town. I'm sure we can work something out. If we did not get a good deal here we could go to the recyclist shop in Kaukauna. Since I know the lingo they would not try and BS us.

As far as Chicago land, I do not know of any shops.

May be start another post with that question and see what will hit for ya and maybe aomeone closer can come to your rescue for the lingo.

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Okay kids... so I went to the bike store. $480+ and he didn't fess up to anything cheaper - old models, colors, etc etc. Sometimes those places seem so stuffy... I get this 'aw look at the naive young lady in here all by herself for her first real adult bike' feeling. Sure sure it's all in my head probly, but of the two stores I have been in so far, these folks are NOT connecting with me... anywho...

So I test rode a road bike at $720 with the curly type handles, a road bike with straight handles at $500 something, and two hybrids (one regular one women's type frame). The hybrids are much more comfortable, but I feel like Mary Poppins sitting up so straight. Although I know this isn't the truth, I feel more like I am riding through town with a kitty in my front basket rather than getting a work out... BUT it sure had my butt happier! I really couldn't tell a difference between the other two, it is just very overwhelming being there in the first place, and alone!

Price and comfort lean me towards the hybrid, but I definitely dont need to feel like lolly gagging Mary Poppins either... maybe my brain is just telling me the upright positioning isnt right for me??? Because I am sure you hybrid lovers are getting great workouts too... Thoughts? Responses? Anyone know a bike shop around Chicagoland that makes a newbie like myself feel... welcome and fabulously brilliant?

;) you guys are awesome!

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Hi Dani-
How's the running going?
I started training for my first 1/2M
and enjoying my new bike except for 1 or 2 things that need tweaking

Did you read the thread I started here called
"What Bike Do You Own & would you buy it again?"

I would recommend you find it & read through
some excellent advice from everyone on this cycle team

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I'm sorry. I'm still in shock that WONGERCHI is recommending a hybrid.

It's a good call. You aren't planning any distances, races, or group rides, so your purpose is to get a good workout. You don't need to keep up with anyone else.

As for a comfy seat, I have always found that good cycling shorts can make many seats much more comfy. And you can wear them in spin classes also and be happier on their saddles. And by working with your LBS, you might work a deal to immediately swap the stock saddle with a women's specific design.

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Hi - Just happened to read the part of your post about the Giant Cypress DX. I own that bike, and I like it ! I do think I want to get a road bike in another year or so, but the Cypress is fine. I'm not a really "serious" rider, but I like to do rides of 15-30 miles on weekends, etc. I did change out the saddle for one that wasn't so "cushy", and I'm much more comfortable that way. Felt like I was being sucked into an easy chair before, and the soreness never got better, either. I haven't had to fix or adjust anything about the bike yet, and I've ridden it for about a year.

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I only mentioned craigslist becuase of the financial constraints. If you know what you want and have developed rapport with an LBS shop they would look it over for you.

With that being said.... I bought my Giant from one of the our cycle club members. Also, I have developed a good rapport with my LBS guys as well. I have gotten many good deals and discounts. My latest purchase was a set of Syntace c2 aero bars for the cost of an assorted 12 pack of Dark beer. I think I made out on the deal!!! I'm sure I'll be consuming some of those beers as well;-)

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Good points... I am iffy on the idea of craigslist anyways... you never know! I think I will stop off after work and have a chat with one of the local LBS's there are two very close by me that look promising! I'll keep ya'll posted! Thanks for the help!

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Oppps for forgot add...I would stay away from Craigslist too!!! I thought I would go that route but it's like buying a car without a mechanic...it may look okay to the untrained eye but would you know by looking at it, if it had been in a wreck or not!!!

I also agree with making friends at the LBS...those guys are even more helpful than the running store guys!!! Also see if they have FREE maintenance workshops...I have gone to one but probably need a few more!!!

Also don't forget riding GLOVES and YOUR HELMET on every ride!!!

Jackie!!!

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Dani:
I'd personally NOT get anything off Craigslist for your first bike. You don't know what size you need, you've not tested out bikes to see what you like, and you don't have the mechanical skills to fix or tweak something.

Head to the LBS, try as many bikes as you can, maybe repeat at another shop. If you're still fixed on Craigslist at that time, then at least you'll have your size nailed down.

Especially for someone new to the world of bikes - your first stop is the LBS. If you start building up a good rapport with the LBS, it's worth its weight in gold. I ride with the shop guys occasionally, and it's amazing how I can turn up with my bike for something and it makes its way to the front of the repair line...

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Hi Jackie! Thanks for the tip - comfy seat and good shocks are a must! That is a concern of mine because whenever I do the bike at the gym my butt hurts for days. A comfy ride will make me ride more and therefore be worth a little more money! I've gotta see what they can give me with a little discount ;)
Thanks Thanks!
Dani!

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Hey Dani!!! Long time no see!!!

I started cycling about 4 months ago at the insistence of my running coach...I simply love cycling now!!!

I have a Cannondale Adventure 4 hybrid that I love...I was looking at the Treks and Giants...but my LBS had one 2008 model that they were able to give me a 20% discount on...it was still a little more than I wanted to spend but have never regretted spending the extra money!!! My bike does not have fenders yet...I found out the hard way about riding in the rain with no fenders...LOL!!! Having a bike with a comfy seat and good shocks will make all the difference in your riding experience!!!

Best of luck and happy trails!!!

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Yeah, you have a great point there - now that I have to start buying shoes every 6-8 months at $100 a pop-gonna get expensive!!! How do ya'll feel about Womens Cypress DX bike - listed on craigslist for $325... chicago.craigslist.org/nwc/bik/12224
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Not sure I need a basket, but sounds good...

Now you say a hybrid huh? What makes you say that, what is the difference?

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Dani:
I can't believe I'm doing this given my lack of affection for hybrids, but that might be just the bike you need. However, it still has to fit you, so head down the LBS and see what they have to offer.

Give them your budget to work with but always budget for the extras. You most definitely need a helmet and stuff to fix a flat tire. Lights and fenders are necessary if you're planning on riding in the dark and or in the wet. And it's generally the case that your dream bike is slightly more expensive than you bargained for...

You know the price/mile calculation that can be done for running shoes? I did that for my bike and my shoes for the past 18 months and surprisingly, running was more expensive (31 cents/k as opposed to 29 cents/k) than the bike. My bike was a huge initial outlay but this number is only going to go down now.

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Oh my gosh, I hadn't even considered 'extras' yet... I think I can skip out on a light for now, a fender though??? I'm afraid I had no clue that a bike could have a fender! Help!

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Hey Dani!

Trek hybrids have come up in other discussions here, and I'd like to highly recommend them again :) My bike is a Trek 7.2 fx hybrid, which in this case basically means an upright road bike with sturdier tires. It's comfortable, very lightweight, and speedy enough for what I do with it (commuting, tooling around town, the occasional longer ride). I know the fx line starts at around $350 and goes up from there, so you could definitely find something in the price range you want.

And a side note about bike prices: make sure to factor in lights, fenders (if you want them), etc.

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This is great! All advice is well taken! Let me answer some questions...

My current bike was a $50 garage sale schwinn mountain bike. Got me to classes through college, but the squirrels ate the seat, it is all rusted out, and the tires are flat... I'm ready for something new!

In my new bike's life, I imagine I would bike mainly on the roads in my neighborhood and the paved park trails that I run on. I am a runner first and foremost and this will be my 'cross training' activity. I do not really see myself getting into any tri's or bike races or anything like that. This is why I just can't justify spending too much on something that might flutter to the wayside due to time constraints or a distracted exercise routine.

BUT I am hearing what you are saying - if a schwinn from Costco is going to have cheaper parts etc, I do NOT want to spend my time (or money) running around getting the thing fixed. I do spend the $100 to get the correct shoes at a running store, and I do see the value in going to the local bike store - but I also run everyday which puts more value into the shoes... BUT if I keep my new bike in the garage and take care of it, it SHOULD last WAY longer than my running shoes ever will!

Perhaps my local bike store will have bikes like HAPPYHOUSEWIFE mentioned... I suppose I need to go for a test ride!

Dani

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6/17/09 1:39 P

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First, you will need to determine the type of riding you are going to be doing? The bikes you mentioned at Costco and Dick's would be something I would get for my kids or myself if I thought I would only casually ride and not ever think about doing Tri's Duo's or Road races. The components on these bikes are usually really cheap and poorly made. My son has broken some teeth on his gears in his cassette in the rear wheel and he does not ride that often nor is he hard on his bike. The diamond back shifter broke and the brake assempbly broke by the braket area for the front brake. Just some of the issues with cheap components.

However, you need to test ride test ride and test ride. Get a feel for what you like. Go to your LBS and let them know what you want to use your bike for. Let them know you have a limited budget and I'm sure they will work with you. If there are local bike clubs someone might be wanting tosell their old bike.

Once you have determined what you want and the size frame you need you can go searching on craigslist.org for your area and you would be surprised what you might find out there in your price range.

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Dani:
Some questions, sorry! What are you going to be using your new bike for? Road? Trails? Racing? Pottering around? Do you already have a bike? If so, what? What is your budget?

In terms of where to get them, can I ask you this question? You're a runner - where do you get your running shoes? And why? Especially if they're your first pair? Even if it's cheap, a good, well fitted bike is just as important to the sport as a good, well fitted pair of shoes is to running.

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Hello,

I just checked out your Sparkpage to get an idea of who you are and I think you and I are about on the same page when it comes to biking!

I am NOT a biking expert at all and I don't have any big stories to tell you about the trek across the USA that I did.

However, I did just purchase a new bike and I love it. It may be what you are looking for, too. I purchased a Vita made by Specialized. It is a lower priced Specialized and price range is around $300 - $500.00 depending on where you purchase yours. Mine was $379.00 because I was able to get a "test color" bike that they ended up not going with that color. It's uniquely mine.

This bike is a hybrid so it has road tires but the handle bars are designed for a more upright ride. I would guess it to weigh about 5 lbs??? Seems very light to me. I typically ride anywhere from 5 - 50 mile rides either around my neighborhood or down the highway and have absolutely enjoyed it.

The bike shop in my hometown always has some bikes with very minor damage that he will sell at a reduced rate. You might ask your dealer if he has any of those available.

You can also check out the Vita's online.

That's my 2!



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Okay all, I have dug around on your message boards and have found all I could ever want to know about bikes - most of which went right over my head!!!

I test rode a trek road bike at the local bike shop and it was phenomenal, but VERY expensive and I just dont have that kind of money at the moment...

I saw what appeared to be similar looking bikes at Costco and Dick's sporting goods, for $150 less... Dick's had Diamondback bikes and Costco has Schwinn's each about $250-$300. I can add up my bday money and a little from my own wallet to swing that...

Are these going to be good bikes? Does anyone know one versus the other? Thoughts? Thanks!

Dani

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