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Went "South". Had it with sriracha.

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I had feta, spinach, tomato omelet seasoned with oregano, so Mediterranean of me, for brekkers. It was dinner last Sunday, as well, but that was at one of the local Polish restaurants. It's true that "breakfast" food has no hour.

When something is well done or just what is wanted at the moment, other foods, even favorites and cravings, don't register.


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Spinach and eggs are a great combo! This farmer's omelet has onions, green peppers, home fried potatoes, the eggs, all scrambled with cheddar cheese. I do a bialy on the side.

I've decided I really am not crazy about plain scrambled eggs. They need vegs, or cheese, or meat. Plain is boring.

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This is all good. I had a feta / spinach omelette for brunch today, and it really held for the balance of the day. Eggs are my weekend treats.

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LOL!

Changing the topic back to CHOCOLATE, I just watched the latter half of "Chocolat" starring Juliette Binoche and Johnny Depp. Loved the book, love the movie, and you know how I feel about chocolate.

But strangely, I'm not craving chocolate. Or cake. Or anything. I've made a cup of Earl Grey tea with artificial sweetener, I had a large omelet and bialy for brunch, and I'm happy. So amazing to be satisfied with what I ate 4 or 5 hrs ago, and not be stimulated to eat by food in a movie.

I guess I've learned something here!!!!!!

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:X

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I'm glad to know we were all such hot babes in our youth, LOL!!!!!

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Phebe's suitors recall an encounter in Big Sur when I was 22-ish. My friend and I, touring the coast, stopped in at Nepenthe for a drink and the views. As I was heading up- or downstairs, a gray-haired gent whose body had gone south, but whose mind apparently remained erect, noticed me looking at the local artwork on the wall. He introduced himself as the creator thereof and, with no other conversation, invited me to be his house guest for a spell: "It won't cost [me] anything."

We could fill volumes with our collected, all-but-forgotten reminiscences, but we shan't.

P.S. His artwork was good of its type.

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Men's brains are wired differently. Like, love, sex are all a single compartment in a man's brain. And sex is important to them at every age. I worked in a medical practice for 25 years that dealt exclusively with men with prostate cancer. Cancer or not, men cannot accept life without sex; it's integral to being a man. I've come to the conclusion that it's better to try and understand and accept what cannot be changed in the basic relationship between men and women.

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Aaaaah.

The rest I cannot answer on the board.

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The proposition came at the end of dinner. He had been a gentleman up until that point.

What is it with men? They think we're just waiting around for their sleazy propositions? Ugh!

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So why even bother with dinner then?

My friend's story was even funnier (I shared it with my roommate who at the end of the retelling asked if she were an English major - she was - it showed in the writing). In her hey day she was a force to be reckoned with.

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I've never had a man offer to buy me underwear - that's quite bizarre!

I was offered a trip to Paris if I accompanied an older Chinese man who tried to pick me up on the train going to Beijing, back in 1984 (in my youth). I told him I didn't know what kind of woman he thought I was, but I wasn't THAT. He claimed language misunderstanding and fled from my quiet fury.

Though later on, an older Jewish man visiting St Thomas also offered to take me to Paris. I was being nice and went to dinner with him, but the guy was old enough to be my father!!!! I was appalled!!!!! And totally grossed out! Yuck!

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These furriners understood quite well.

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Phebe, is that akin to my friend years ago having been offered the purchase of underwear in Bloomingdale's by a "Columbia Man"? I still remember that incident as if it were yesterday.

At least a foreigner has an excuse that he just "didn't understand". But a Columbia Man?

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It was just a funny juxtaposition, being asked out by a Japanese man for a date at a strip club. With you as the teacher.

And yes, students make an impression on us - you made impressions on them as well, they were bringing you gifts!

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What kind of girl do you take me for, Phebele?

In truth, they alternately gave us the giggles and the creeps, as they'd ask almost every week, never noticing the repeated rejections. It was interesting, though, that the oh-so-proper stereotype wasn't quite true. I'm sure they went without us and I wonder where the wives thought they were on those late nights?

The Spanish-speaking students were wondeful and their appreciation for the teachers was overwhelming. A lesson on numbers led me to mention that the 29th, which was coming up the next week on a class day, brought some gifts from the students. Another woman, from Mexico, spoke of her husband's return from visiting family there. He brought back several grocery items unavailable in NY at the time. The next week she brought me a package of homemade, soft tacos.

And then there was my little Bulgarian couple, noticeable amid their Latin classmates. A slightly roly-poly couple, 65-ish, short and so adorable. The husband came close to crowing each time he shouted out a correct response. He exhibited a schoolchild's excitement, "Ooh, ooh [pick me, pick me!]" The only trouble was that he thwarted his darling wife, apparently thinking that the man should shine. They stopped coming to class after only several classes. I didn't know why and missed and hoped illness wasn't the cause.

I'm amazed at how much detail is in my memory 40 years later.

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So Laurie, we want stories about going to strip clubs with your Japanese students!!!!!

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I was in high school when we were required to take 2 years of foreign language - I took French, and enjoyed it so much I took 3 years. I don't remember how to say anything in future tense, but I can say things in present or one kind of past tense. Gets us around French-speaking places, plus helps with Spanish and Italian-speaking places.

I was appalled that my younger brothers, not all that much younger, didn't have the same foreign language requirement. I think this decision was a major dis-service to the youth of the US.

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I have yet to browse the site, but you might want to look through SnagFilms.com. They seem to offer documentaries, independents, et al.

The American attitude toward learning languages has always been lacking, so it's good to hear that something is afoot in some cities. I don't know if the NYC public system offers intensive language, but hope so.

A thousand years ago I taught English at Berlitz for a term. My company sent me for a brush-up in French and I liked the atmosphere. They have/had their own method which I followed for several months. I worked two evenings, as I was working the full-time day job. It was a peculiar situation. At least half the students, Japanese posted for a couple of years in their trading companies' local quarters, were required to attend for individual lessons. The group classes were people of modest means paying their own way, mostly from Spanish-speaking countries, who wanted to expand their lives here. They were a joy, so excited and eager. The Japanese men were forever inviting us young women teachers to drinks at strip-club sorts of places.

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On the subject of language skills, I taught English as a foreign language in Israel in their public school system. Immersion is the way to go, but in many parts of the world, there is so much access to music, TV, film, the Internet, etc. that most people know quite a bit without formal instruction. Also, professionals and college students often use English textbooks. My husband's entire 7 years in university in Israel was completed using English textbooks only. Often in his years in the military, there were manuals and materials in English too.

I wish all our school kids here in the US had the opportunity to learn a second language starting from kindergarten. My grandson in San Diego is attending a charter language immersion school for Hebrew called Kavod School. It is part of the public school system, not private school,. There are also public immersion schools for Spanish, French, German and Chinese in my city. . In Houston, where my daughter lives, there is an Arabic language immersion school that just opened. I'm quite astonished that Israeli children are not required to learn Arabic in their elementary schools.

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I saw The Farewell Party. It was brilliant, but like you said, it was gone in one week. It was playing in a very tiny, single screen theater in San Diego. The movie was both funny and sad, light-hearted and yet heavy in subject. Next time you see an ad for the yearly Jewish Film Festival in your city, see if it is on the list. Does anyone know of any website where you can order some of these great independent & foreign films? We've seen everything on Netflix.

Another good Israeli film was Zero Motivation. That's one you can find on Netflix.

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I've tried to learn a few words or phrases in most of the countries we've visited - though Malaysian was probably the most difficult.

And I picked up quite a bit of French in New Caledonia, or maybe some of the high school French came back. That was easier than Samoan, that's for sure!

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Dee,

There's an old New Yorker cartoon that shows a foreign flick, with subtitles, that has a couple "nose to nose". It clearly shows the couple speaking a lot, as they look deeply into each others' eyes (about four or five lines' worth), and then on the bottom it shows the translation: "I love you!"

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Language skills, even rudimentary, go a long way when traveling in other countries. I cringed whenever I heard Americans launch into English as though, of course, all the world would accommodate them. I got into the habit of asking shopkeepers, bus drivers, et al., if they spoke English after greeting them in their own language. I did this even in the Netherlands, where the Dutch facility in English makes most Americans sound barbaric. I just didn't want to appear to be "one of those..."

One time I tried to learn a few words of Korean because of all the small, Korean-owned businesses in New York. I'd gotten friendly with the couple who ran my corner deli and asked them to teach me some basics. The first time I tried out my new vocabulary in a store that I hadn't been to before, I mortified myself by smiling involuntarily as I pronounced the phrases. If you smile in a way that says, "Aren't I something?" or, worse, "Aren't I gracious?," stop immediately. Nothing is worse than being self-congratulatory when it's supposed to be about the other person.

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Claro que si. What was interesting was no matter what state I was living in, be it WI or MN or other places not typically thought of as Spanish-speaking, I found it came in handy.

My mother used to say, that you would speak if you lived in a foreign country for six months, "of necessity". With me it was more like a year and a half. Then I could really fight with Telefonos de Mexico!

But seriously, being able to speak another language, no matter which one, is invaluable. It opens a door, not otherwise accessible, on another culture. Americans "expect" all places to be English-speaking, but they truly miss out on an incredible opportunity.

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I'm all in favor of foreign-language serials in order to develop language skills! Amazing how much Spanish I got from Gran Hotel.

Now those Korean K-dramas are a little tougher, but I've picked up a few words.

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Have you been able to keep up your fluency, Nu?

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As you immerse yourself in a language, you will be surprised how much your language skills will grow. Surprised the heck out of me, when I started. And this was years after high school Spanish.

Freud said nothing is every lost that one is exposed to. I would be inclined to agree.

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My Spanish is minimal, but it grows.

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As the Mexicans would say (not about chocolate, but it's applicable): "There aren't two like you." Roughly equivalent to the American, "When you were born, the mold was broken."

If you choose South or Central America as the next locales for your wanderlust, we can practice via SparkMail in Spanish!

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A chocolate bunny - it comes full circle!!!!

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No rabbit? Then try this alternate:

Here comes Phebe Cottontail,
Hopping down the bunny trail,
Hippity, hoppity, Phebe's on her way...

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No? Then how 'bout a chocolate bunny?

emoticon Candy Bunny, of whom you're heard

(P.S. I seem to be getting punchy.)

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Phebe, you're like the water that wears away the stone: Persistent!

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I was built for carrying buckets of water (or milk) across the frozen tundra - as in built for endurance, not speed. I can swim for a mile, no problem. Walk a couple of miles.

But a rabbit, I'm not.

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Phebs, you are a born race-winner.
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Exactly! I know I'll never win a race, I just go for personal best time, general exercise, and fun. Or craziness, as in the color run. Thought about a mud run, but my knee is still a little sore from the color run, so I'm skipping that. (I don't crawl well anymore.)

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Shades of Rosie Ruiz, except that you were honorable.
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LOL!

Richard and I did a race once, but it started raining. So we left the race and went for coffee. Watched for people heading back along the course, and eventually walked back with the crowd. Turned out I was second in my age group to cross the finish line!!!!!! (I refused to pick up my award, since we didn't really do the entire race.)

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Maybe walk backwards from the finish line to the starting line? That should fool a few people.

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I do "races" for the exercise and fun, never planning to win, place, or show. One of these days I want to come in last, sometimes they have special prizes for last place!

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Love your "devil may care" attitude, Phebe. Great way to be!

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Yup - my met-at-the-run-friend from Guam and I stopped before the finish line to take photos for each other, LOL! We were covered in color and sparkly glitter, and it seemed like the perfect shot! Who cared if it took 5 minutes off our time, we weren't counting anyway!

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Phebe! A new signature photo. It can only be from the run. You look happy, glowing and, yes, colorful.

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Saw "The Man From UNCLE" last night - meh. The TV show was better. And David McCallum was a much cuter (and nicer) Ilya Kuriaken.

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Vermilion, lapis and jonquil.

(three of my favorite words)

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I have colors?

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I wanted to see it back then, having seen the preview when I went to see "Woman in Gold." Thought I'd have a week or two and, being busy at the time, forgot about it. I wasn't asking if it's in a theater anywhere now, just whether anyone has seen it.

You've been showing your colors in their full glory for a while now, Nu the Librarian.

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It came out May 22nd. Even a blockbuster would not last three months in theaters. Wait for the DVD then check the libraries. Best suggestion.

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Did anyone see "The Farewell Party?" I wanted to, but it disappeared from the theater so quickl; it may have run only one week. I should have known that would happen because it was never intended to be in the blockbuster vein.

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Phoenix got a 99% rating on Rottentomatoes.com. Looks good.

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My friend wants to see "Phoenix" tomorrow. Never heard of it before. It's about a woman who survived a concentration camp and had been so disfigured that she required surgery to correct her disfigurement. The premise is a bit of a stretch in that she realizes that her own husband does not recognize her. And she wants to test him to see if he was the one that betrayed her to the Nazis.

And now once again we have derailed this thread.

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Weighed in today, lost 2.2 for a total of -40lbs. Goodbye and good riddance to them!

I long to go to see a good movie but there's only drek playing in the movie theaters. Summer is so dreary for the cinema. Maybe there's something on Netflix.



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I know - I wonder how we can train ourselves to use more of our brain! Think how much we could accomplish if we did!

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What always enthralled me is the capacity that children have for separating two languages that they have learned simultaneously. Instinctively, for the most part, they know which words belong in which language. Yes, you are indeed correct: The brain is amazing, and supposedly only 10% is utilized, or something like that.

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You are absolutely right about da Vinci. All I can say is I was stuck in traffic and the traffic was distracting me!!

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LOL at your classmate!

Though I think it was Leonardo who did the upside down and backwards journals.

I think it comes from being a child and learning that Hebrew was written from right to left. So I just signed my name with the letters written backwards, and the entire thing written from right to left. Told my mom I now was writing in Hebrew. (My brother Howdy did the same thing four or so years later.)

I think our family tends to think outside the box, or something like that.

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So you and Michelangelo with the mirror writing, eh? My favorite story was borrowing someone's notes in Biology who had written "orgasm" instead of "organism". When I pointed it out to him, he turned a beautiful shade of crimson.

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I always figured the ability to read garbled spelling was because I taught for so long - students don't always spell correctly, so teachers learn to compensate. Otherwise we wouldn't be able to read (and correct) assignments! (I loved the student who meant to write "picnic" but spelled it "panic" - as in "All the animals went on a panic." I could only imagine monkeys and leopards and lions running around screaming "AAAAAHHHHHH!")

I can fairly easily read (and write) backwards, or upside down - backwards AND upside down is a little slower. But I'm an art person, so I figure it's just a visual thing. Or something.



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Here's an example, Phebe:

www.livescience.com/18392-reading-ju
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led-words.html


This is what I meant.

And if the following cited article is true (saw this one this week), this is astounding:

www.sciencealert.com/new-alzheimer-s
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Yup.

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I was just surprised my brain filled in for transliterated Hebrew - our brains are amazing, aren't they?

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That's been tested psychologically, Phebe: That we can read stuff that has a mixture of numbers and letters because the brain knows what is *supposed* to be there. Interesting stuff.

I do not see it as pejorative in the least. It's a common prayer.

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LOL - my brain actually added missing z, and knew it was this special time (or season, or occasion - depending on one's translation).


I don't think chocolate is decadent (which has multiple meanings, actually - it could also corrupt or debauched, or morally declining.

So maybe chocolate is just an indulgence?

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That's why we didn't understand it: You left out the "z", Mark. Funny you should cite "Hebrew for Dummies" =runnnnnnnnnnnnnnnninnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnng!=

It's "LaZman hazeh".

My Hebrew is not as bad as I thought then.

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Loosely and perhaps a tad pejoratively, a Magic Moment:

www.dummies.com/how-to/content/a-bas
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Mark, what is Laman Hazeh?

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I don't think I'd add bacon to my s'mores. But they are a treat.

I remember cooking bacon on a stick over a fire. Then we'd put this goopy bread dough over the bacon, and slowly cook that over the fire. Really slow but very tasty!

I loved camping in Girl Scouts! Probably why I enjoyed our camping trips in New Zealand and Australia, even though a camper van isn't as rough as a tent and all. But, well, my New York City husband isn't as used to roughing it as I am.

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Thank you kindly. Having had bacon-something ice cream and knowing that bacon-anything has been all the rage for a while , I can pass on that ingredient; it's never been a fave of mine on its own. I'll be a purist, at least for my very first ever s'more, whenever that may be. Toasted marshmallows on a stick have always been high on my list -- completely browned and mottled with black. It's been decades, though.

My Girl Scout troupe leaders didn't let us do much of anything on cookouts. I have faint recall of them wrapping the potatoes in foil and tossing them in, but I doubt we took time for baked potatoes. This must have come up some time here, but that's never stopped me from repeating that I still have my GS pin and knife. No really sharp edges, but nice to have.

P.S. A very good restaurant across the street nearby has bacon peanut brittle. I haven't tasted it, as they don't give out tiny pieces. It's one of the appetizer choices and is also available packaged to carry away. Maybe I'll ask for a taste some time.

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Laurie, here's an article on s'mores for you:

blog.rei.com/camp/infographic-anatom
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of-a-smore/?cm_mmc=email_com_lm-_-skR>ills_knowledge-_-081615-_-img_smore&
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36=NULL&RMID=20150816_SK_CPI_SLA
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It just showed up in an REI email.

The problem with s'mores is that: 1) Girl Scout leaders rarely give campers enough chocolate to go into the s'more; 2) you have to be careful to cook the marshmallow properly, it cannot be burned but also needs to be melty in the center, which requires slow and careful toasting over the fire so it gets melty inside and golden outside and not falling off the stick; and 3) it has to be put together carefully so you don't drop any of the components on the ground (or a burning marshmallow on someone else's hand, which happened to me as a young child and is excruciatingly painful).

Done well, s'mores are a marvel of camp cooking. Done badly, well, they're like hotdogs in the sand.

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I feel like Homer Simpson: "mmmmmmmmmmmmm, chOOOOOColate!"

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OK, so send over the milk chocolate, and I'll send over the dark and bitter and semi-sweet to you guys.

Done.

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I'll take semi- and bittersweet. I can pass on milk chocolate and will throw away the decorative white chocolate.

Am I the only one who's never had a s'more? I like each element, but haven't had them in my mouth at once.

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Yeah, not too many people like the super dark stuff.

I like anything from semisweet to bittersweet to the super dark. Milk chocolate only if nothing else is available and it's a really good brand.

White chocolate is okay as a contrasting decoration.

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I like your recollection of your mother taking the dark chocolates, Nu. It made me think of mine eating my rejects (Barton's, Loft's, Whitman's, See's, et al.) when I'd test with a tiny bite from a bottom corner and find a filling I disliked. Maybe she did that at other people's homes but not ours.

Phebe, didn't we just have the super-dark chocolate conversation? You like the extreme varieties, which are too "stiff" or "dry" for me. Like champagne. I like dry champagne, but the driest are beyond me -- a mouthful of gas with no discernible liquid.

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It was mentioned. A thread was born.

'Nuff said.

Next question to tackle.

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It's not that I dislike it. It has it's place. But it never would cross my mind to start a thread concerning it. Brown sugary goo, light or dark...

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Funny what you say about dark chocolate, Phebe. I am sure we had this conversation before. I clearly remember all the Halloween candy that we collected. Huge bags in our heyday. We separated out all the milk chocolate, and my mother being the good sport, took the dark chocolate. She didn't have a sweet tooth like my father and I had. I inherited it from him.

Dark is the one chocolate in the bunch, I couldn't tolerate as a kid. And nothing much has changed in that vein since.

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White chocolate, the filthy travesty, should be declared unconstitutional. Off with its head!

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The scientific name of chocolate is "theobroma." Drink (or nectar) of the gods, depending on your translation.

I'm sure there are health benefits. Antioxidants and other good stuff. Or something like that.

I like my chocolate dark. Seriously dark. The bar in the fridge is 90% chocolate. I'll eat 99% as well. 85% is okay, 70% is getting too sweet. I've also eaten straight cocoa beans and straight cocoa nibs. Cacao. Whatever.

Chocolate mixed with some stuff is good. Dark cocoa powder and some stevia in hot water, or in plain yogurt, or with soda water, or whatever. I actually prefer coffee gelato or ice cream to chocolate, since the chocolate tends to be too sweet. Really.

So for the poor misguided souls like Mark who don't like chocolate, or the equally delusional souls like my sister-outlaw who prefers WHITE chocolate (an oxymoron if ever there was one), I say fine. Okay. Miss out. See if I care.

Because that just means more dark chocolate for the rest of us!



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Brown sugary goo. Laman hazeh.

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Yes. If you do not understand the meaning of chocolate, I don't have that kind of time to explain it to you.

Chocolate is the elixir of the gods. Done.

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People, chocolate is merely one out of 31 different available ice cream flavors. Chocolate is one of a handful of major cake flavorings. Chocolate is a flavoring agent for sugary foods. Do you think you would really like chocolate so much if not for all the sugar? How about the sugar and the butter? I rest my case. If I never had chocolate again, that would be okay too.

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To answer the question in the title line, I hope so.

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Phebe said it and I wholeheartedly agree: A world without chocolate is a world devoid of a rich landscape.

Coincidentally, I found this in my email box just now:

www.consultantlive.com/cardiovascula
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diseases/12-bits-chocolate-and-healtR>h?GUID=E5DD1609-36A5-4800-957D-5FC9A
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Now seriously, how can something THAT good be all bad?

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