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have not had time to start it. will start it today

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Without giving anything away, Gwyn, how are you finding the book?

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just got book today

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Wow! That was superfast! Without giving anything away, how did you find it, Dee?

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Almost done with the book. I will reread some sections as well.

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I am at the midpoint. Some sections are very poignant, and well- written.

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going to break down and get the book today from Barnes and noble

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All the libraries have a long wait list, SP. I suggest putting your name on the list. It might just surprise you how fast people read. I have seen that with DVDs that I reserve that are in the hundreds on the wait list, and it moves very rapidly as it comes from the whole system.

You just might get lucky. Stop by either way, you might enjoy the conversation.

8-25-15 Followup: I have the book reserved now, and am Number 412. It is my hope that the print edition will be ready in time for the group discussion. Right now, I'm listening to the book on CDs in my car (my usual modus operandi) and am about halfway through. Be interesting to see if a number this high up will get me where I need to be in print in three weeks' time.

Edit, Edit: And now just a few hours later, I'm already 410. See, SP?

Edit, Edit, Edit: Now 400. The numbers are dropping quickly. I don't think there are a whole lot of pages considering it was really originally just a first draft. At this rate, I just may have the print version by discussion night. We need to vote on a night now.

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I would love to join the discussion, but I have two problems:

1 - the library has a very long waiting list for the book, and I can't afford to purchase a book right now

2 - I am potentially out of town on Sat Sept 12

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I prefer Saturday night, too, but will accommodate whatever the majority wishes.

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sppose Saturday is a better day than Friday for me. but either will work.

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Not sure where I'll be at that point in Sept, but will do my best to join in.

And I posted a question of the book thread, asking if we had a time frame. I didn't read all of yesterday's email, we went to a movie yesterday and I skipped some of my email.

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Tthanks for your help.

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The sticky thread is open now. I don't understand the rest. Didn't you suggest times and a couple of dates here? People can vote here on time and date, as they are peripheral to the actual discussion.

Let's git to votin.' Here's Nu's suggestion.

"...The best way this works is on a Saturday night, which would account best for all time zones. Or a Friday night. But then I would guess people would be tired after a full work week. So, say, Friday, September 11th or Saturday, September 12th for about an hour or two, depending on how well it goes? That would be right before Rosh Hashana? Say:
8 PM ET
7 PM CT
6 PM MT
5 PM PT?"

Anyone have other suggestions?

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Then please poll the date and time so you do the sticky once.

Thanks.

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I'll open the thread now, but no yakking allowed.

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Fine by me.

My intention was only to jump start it.

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Hey, hey, I need some help here. Have we decided on a date for discussion or is that the next poll we're taking? And, for the sake of simplicity, we'll choose between the two dates Nu suggested, yes? Or will we be discussing in dribs and drabs until The Big Night?

Knowing how easily we go off on tangents, I'd like to hold off on creating the thread until these final details are settled. Ideally the thread will be ONLY for discussing the book, not all the other things we're fond of dragging in.

Okay with everyone?

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My pleasure.

I will now pass the baton to Laurie, our intrepid leader, to set up the "room".

Thanks to all for all the suggestions that were made. If this works, perhaps we can pick one from those that were suggested for the next offering.

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Thanks for giving us a framework.

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Here's my initial question (as you read), and I don't think it's giving away anything really, as it has been covered amply in the press around the time of Go Set A Watchman's July release:

Both books, "Go Set A Watchman" and "To Kill A Mockingbird" cast a long shadow on the mores of the Deep South, one twenty years before the onset of the Civil Rights Movement, and the other, just at its dawn. In the opening of the current book (and not to spoil the reading of the more famous one, as others have expressed their interest in reading it for the first time), Jean Louise Finch comes home to check on her elderly father, Attitus Finch, and begins to see that his core ideology, in her opinion, has changed. But in truth, has it, or is it merely a reflection of the times, and its own particular southern mentality, borne of its own history? Or perhaps it is his own reaction to the times he is living in?

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Yippee!

OK, this is what I suggest: The best way this works is on a Saturday night, which would account best for all time zones. Or a Friday night. But then I would guess people would be tired after a full work week. So, say, Friday, September 11th or Saturday, September 12th for about an hour or two, depending on how well it goes? That would be right before Rosh Hashanah? Say:
8 PM ET
7 PM CT
6 PM MT
5 PM PT?

Any takers on that? Does that work for all?

Once we decide, Laurie said she would, as one of SP Jews' leaders, create the virtual room, as a sticky thread. If we're all at the keyboard "live" at that time, it should work.

Edited by: NUMD97 at: 8/24/2015 (05:43)
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Ample!

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Okay, enough have chimed in, even those up in the nosebleed seats. It's "Go Set A Watchman."

Three weeks enough time?

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I learned the membership requirement when I wanted to post in a team in which I wasn't a member. Had to join to ask my question (it was about pets) and then unjoin -- I'm not a pet-team "type." Don't even have a pet.

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Yes, I am aware, and have instructed it that way.

Thanks, Madame Secretary. emoticon

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Anyone who's interested in taking part but not already a member of the team would have to join in order to post. Such people can join now to vote or join if the selected book is to their liking. Simple enough.



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Thanks, Dee.

People outside this group's cyberwalls are starting to ask how they can join. I just sent an SP mail to one....

This should prove to be interesting.

Now....Donna, Eileen?

I am purposely staying last as I don't want my choice to influence anyone unduly. As if it could! emoticon But just in case. It should be a democratic process. And if all goes well, we can continue it as long as the group would like.

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Watchman

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Dee? Donna? Eileen? Anyone else?

Edited by: NUMD97 at: 8/23/2015 (08:11)
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I would prefer "The Red Tent" - but am fine with either Red Tent or go set a watchman

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And now one third have officially checked in. What say you, two-thirds majority?

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First choice: "Go Set a Watchman"

Second choice: "Girl ....... Hornets Nest"
(yes, I'd re-read)


Sorry, but The Red Tent isn't something I want to read.

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There are six. That means 17% have now weighed in officially. emoticon

Five more to go.

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I'm aware that it doesn't help much, but here it is so far from this babe:

Either "Go Set a Watchman" or "The Red Tent"

If either got the most votes, I'd be happy with it.



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Soooo, what do you suggest, Ms. Laurie? What's your choice?

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I'll suggest that, since most of the books on the list have been read by the people who've suggested them, they consider whether they found them compelling enough to reread.

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Soooo, folks, what's the vote?

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The Steig Larsson books are really that compelling -- I agree. I have read the 1st two

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The Stieg Larsson series are excellent! Not for the faint of heart, one of the continuing threads throughout the series is violence against women - but really riveting, excellent writing, and very thought provoking!

I was in Italy when I read the first (Girl with the Draon Tattoo) - bought the next two in the series, planning to read them on my flight home, but I couldn't wait, I had to read them!!!! Seriously, that compelling!

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Gwyn's book suggestions -- the publishers' reviews:

(1) "The Girl Who Kicked The Hornet's Nest" by Stieg Larsson

Editorial Reviews

Amazon.com Review

Amazon Best Books of the Month, May 2010 As the finale to Stieg Larsson's Millennium Trilogy, The Girl Who Kicked the Hornet's Nest is not content to merely match the adrenaline-charged pace that made international bestsellers out of The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo and The Girl Who Played with Fire. Instead, it roars with an explosive storyline that blows the doors off the series and announces that the very best has been saved for last. A familiar evil lies in wait for Lisbeth Salander, but this time, she must do more than confront the miscreants of her past; she must destroy them. Much to her chagrin, survival requires her to place a great deal of faith in journalist Mikael Blomkvist and trust his judgment when the stakes are highest. To reveal more of the plot would be criminal, as Larsson's mastery of the unexpected is why millions have fallen hard for his work. But rest assured that the odds are again stacked, the challenges personal, and the action fraught with neck-snapping revelations in this snarling conclusion to a thrilling triad. This closing chapter to The Girl's pursuit of justice is guaranteed to leave readers both satisfied and saddened once the final page has been turned. --Dave Callanan --This text refers to the Hardcover edition.

From Publishers Weekly

The exhilarating conclusion to bestseller Larsson's Millennium trilogy (after The Girl Who Played with Fire) finds Lisbeth Salander, the brilliant computer hacker who was shot in the head in the final pages of Fire, alive, though still the prime suspect in three murders in Stockholm. While she convalesces under armed guard, journalist Mikael Blomkvist works to unravel the decades-old coverup surrounding the man who shot Salander: her father, Alexander Zalachenko, a Soviet intelligence defector and longtime secret asset to Säpo, Sweden's security police. Estranged throughout Fire, Blomkvist and Salander communicate primarily online, but their lack of physical interaction in no way diminishes the intensity of their unconventional relationship. Though Larsson (1954–2004) tends toward narrative excess, his was an undeniably powerful voice in crime fiction that will be sorely missed. 500,000 first printing. (May)
Copyright © Reed Business Information, a division of Reed Elsevier Inc. All rights reserved. --This text refers to the Hardcover edition.

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(2) "The Genius" by Jesse Kellerman [he's the son, by the way, of Faye and Jonathan Kellerman - I read something else by him. His debut novel, I believe it was.]

From Publishers Weekly

Starred Review. Greed gets Ethan Muller, a 33-year-old Manhattan art dealer, into hot water in Kellerman's superb third stand-alone thriller (after Trouble). When reclusive artist Victor Cracke disappears, Muller winds up taking possession of the boxes and boxes of intense, disturbing drawings that Cracke left behind in his shabby Queens apartment. A favorable New York Times article helps fuel lucrative sales at an exhibit of Cracke's drawings at Muller's Chelsea gallery. Soon, though, Muller starts to receive cryptic, vaguely threatening letters. He also hears from a retired NYPD detective, Lee McGrath, who recognizes the face of one of the boys in a Cracke drawing as belonging to the victim of a 40-year-old unsolved murder. That revelation turns Muller into an amateur detective as he attempts to discover how the dead boy's image—along with those of several other victims—made its way into the pictures. Kellerman has a gift for creating compelling characters as well as for crafting an ingenious plot that grabs the reader and refuses to let go. Author tour. (Apr.)
Copyright © Reed Business Information, a division of Reed Elsevier Inc. All rights reserved. --This text refers to an out of print or unavailable edition of this title.

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(3) "Secret Brother" by VC Andrews

About the Author

One of the most popular authors of all time, V.C. Andrews has been a bestselling phenomenon since the publication of Flowers in the Attic, first in the renowned Dollanganger family series which includes Petals on the Wind, If There Be Thorns, Seeds of Yesterday, and Garden of Shadows. The family saga continues with Christopher’s Diary: Secrets of Foxworth, Christopher’s Diary: Echoes of Dollanganger, and Secret Brother. V.C. Andrews has written more than seventy novels, which have sold more than 106 million copies worldwide and been translated into twenty-five foreign languages.

[No review noted just an iteration of the first chapter, and that was not a good idea to post here. These "little" blurbs are long enough.]

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(4) "Monument To Murder" by Margaret Truman

Review

Truman's far-reaching knowledge of the Washington, D.C., societal hierarchy, replete with social-climbing mavens and ambitious politicians, stitches a rich tapestry as background for a sordid tale of blackmail and murder. This will hook the reader from the start and not let go until the unpredictable last scene.

About the Author

MARGARET TRUMAN won faithful readers with her works of biography and fiction, particularly her Capital Crimes mysteries. Her novels let readers into the corridors of power and privilege, and poverty and pageantry, in the nation's capital. She was the author of many nonfiction books, including The President's House, in which she shared some of the secrets and history of the White House, where she once resided. She lived in Manhattan.

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(5) "The Last Juror" by John Grisham

Amazon.com Review

In 1970, small town newspaper The Clanton Times went belly up. With financial assistance from a rich relative, it's purchased by 23-year-old Willie Traynor, formerly the paper's cub reporter. Soon afterward, his new business receives the readership boost it needs thanks to his editorial efforts and coverage of a particularly brutal rape and murder committed by the scion of the town's reclusive bootlegger family. Rather than shy from reporting on the subsequent open-and-shut trial (those who oppose the Padgitt family tend to turn up dead in the area's swampland), Traynor launches a crusade to ensure the unrepentant murderer is brought to justice. When a guilty verdict is returned, the town is relieved to find the Padgitt family's grip on the town did not sway the jury, though Danny Padgitt is sentenced to life in prison rather than death. But, when Padgitt is released after serving less than a decade in jail and members of the jury are murdered, Clanton once again finds itself at the mercy of its renegade family.

When it comes, the dénouement is no surprise; The Last Juror is less a story of suspense than a study of the often idyllic southern town of Clanton, Mississippi (the setting for Grisham's first novel, A Time to Kill). Throughout the nine years between Padgitt's trial and release, Traynor finds acceptance in Clanton, where the people "don't really trust you unless they trusted your grandfather." He grows from a long-haired idealist into another of the town's colorful characters--renovating an old house, sporting a bowtie, beloved on both sides of the color line, and the only person to have attended each of the town's 88 churches at least once. The Last Juror returns Grisham to the courtroom where he made his name, but those who enjoyed the warm sentiment of his recent novels (Bleachers, A Painted House) will still find much to love here. --Benjamin Reese --This text refers to an out of print or unavailable edition of this title.

From Publishers Weekly

Grisham has spent the last few years stretching his creative muscles through a number of genres: his usual legal thrillers (The Summons, The King of Torts, etc.), a literary novel (The Painted House), a Christmas book (Skipping Christmas) and a high school football elegy (Bleachers). This experimentation seems to have imbued his writing with a new strength, giving exuberant life to this compassionate, compulsively readable story of a young man's growth from callowness to something approaching wisdom. Willie Traynor, 23 and a college dropout, is working as a reporter on a small-town newspaper, the Ford County Times, in Clanton, Miss. When the paper goes bankrupt, Willie turns to his wealthy grandmother, who loans him $50,000 to buy it. Backed by a stalwart staff, Willie labors to bring the newspaper back to health. A month after his first issue, he gets the story of a lifetime, the murder of beautiful young widow Rhoda Kasselaw. After being raped and knifed, the nude Rhoda staggered next door and whispered to her neighbor as she was dying, "Danny Padgitt. It was Danny Padgitt." The killer belongs to an infamous clan of crooked highway contractors, killers and drug smugglers who live on impregnable Padgitt Island. Willie splashes the murder all over the Times, making him both an instant success and a marked man. The town is up in arms, demanding Danny's head. After a near miss (the Padgitts are known for buying themselves out of trouble), Danny is convicted and sentenced to life in prison. As he's dragged out of the courtroom, he vows revenge on the jurors. Willie finds, to his consternation, that in Mississippi life doesn't necessarily mean life, so in nine years Danny is back outâ€"and jurors begin to die. Around and through this plot Grisham tells the sad, heroic, moving stories of the eccentric inhabitants of Clanton, a small town balanced between the pleasures and perils of the old and the new South. The novel is heartfelt, wise, suspenseful and funny, one of the best Grishams ever.
Copyright © Reed Business Information, a division of Reed Elsevier Inc. All rights reserved. --This text refers to an out of print or unavailable edition of this title.

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OK, this is where we are at:

(1) "Go Set A Watchman" by Harper Lee

(2) "The Inner Circle" by Brad Metzler

(3) "The Pawn" by Steven James

(4) "Undead and Unemployed" by Mary Janice Davidson

(5) "The Red Tent" by Anita Diamant

(6) "Being Mortal: Medicine And What Matters In The End" by Atul Gawande

(7) "Quiet: The Power Of Introverts In A World That Can't Stop Talking" by Susan Cain
[sorry for the slight typo in my listing of the review for this. All better now.]

(8) "Fighting Chance: A Gregor Demarkian Novel" by Jane Haddam

(9) "Spy Thriller: The Blasphemer" by John Ling

(10) "The Girl Who Kicked The Hornet's Nest" by Stieg Larsson

(11) "The Genius" by Jesse Kellerman

(12) "Secret Brother" by VC Andrews

(13) "Monument To Murder" by Margaret Truman

(14) "The Last Juror" by John Grisham

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I'll add the blurbs for the books that Gwyn has suggested, then VOTE! VOTE! VOTE!

Let's say we wrap up the selection by Sunday night. Is that reasonable?

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it was called "Undead and Unemployed." I picked up a bunch of books at my writer's group.

here is my "bucket list" of books I want to read, in no particular order:

"The Girl Who Kicked the Hornet's Nest" by Stieg Larsson
"The Genius" by Jesse Kellerman
"Secret Brother" by VC Andrews
"Monument to Murder" by Margaret Truman
"The Last Juror" by John Grisham

I have read the 1st two books in the series by Stieg Larsson and they are great. I want to read this 3rd one to complete it. Margaret Truman is a WONDERFUL writer, and yes she is Harry Truman's daughter. John Grisham is a great author as well and I bought VC Andrew
s book for fun

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Not you, Gwynn. Sorry I wasn't clearer. You did mention a zombie book. I meant Deeva.

When I get home later, I'll list all the books and then all six of us (at last count) should vote. Majority rules. I don't think there are any losers amongst the books suggested.

Then we pick a reasonable date. Since it's not going to be in IMs, unless we take it outslde SP, it might be slightly unwieldy, but I think it'll work. Laurie will create a "virtual room" as a team leader and we go from there.

Howzat?

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I don't remember having a book in mind

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Did you have a book in mind? Did I accidentally miss it?

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Sounds like a plan.

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Okay. I'll list the contenders when I get home. Then we vote. Majority of votes equals first selection. Howzat?

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Once the book is chosen, I'll make a sticky. The title of the thread will be the title of the book.



Edited by: SYLPHINPROGRESS at: 8/20/2015 (10:03)
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Laurie, since you want to create a sticky as one of the leaders of this group, do you want to list the books that we are considering and then we vote and you create the sticky?

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