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That would be a pretty awesome thing, I can't wait to be remembered this way. As it is now my family doesn't even acknowledge the fact that I've lost 62 pounds in the last 5 years. But I think that's because they have their own stuff going on. It doesn't really bother me, except when I see my mom struggling with weight and jumping from one thing to another but won't ask me how I did it. I don't think she wants to change.

I hope you have a great time at your reunion!

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Highest weight:177 lbs, December 2010

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One of the things about being at goal weight for a long time is that people forget what you used to look like. I have my 50th high school reunion coming up later this year, and those are really the only people who remember me as the Fat Girl.

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Jeanne and Nell, thank you for the heads up!

After eating all that quinoa yesterday my stomach was in a lot of discomfort all night, to the point where I couldn't sleep. Then I had bathroom issues all night. Lots of gurgling. It was horrible!

Maybe I shouldn't have eaten so much of it. But today I didn't have any. I made some hummus to dip veggies in, that was delicious!

I don't doubt one could gain weight from being vegetarian or vegan. Everytime I am looking up a vegan or plant based video there are always ones that pop up saying "I gained weight going vegan". I usually don't look at those because I just assume they were eating too much bread and pasta, or being a junk good vegan.

I still have a lot to learn i guess, but this challenge is fun, its fun to experiment and see how my body handles things.

I've also started lifting weights and training for my 10k. So its fun to feel like a scientist and tweak my nutrition lol.


I used to feel sorry for myself when I was doing a diet. I used to think "why can't I just eat normal?" but what is normal? Normal these days is the SAD diet, which makes me sick. I don't feel sorry for myself and I don't feel deprived anymore. I feel sorry for those depriving themselves of optimal health. Besides, I have been finding some really yummy healthy recipes! So Im not just eating "rabbit food" all the time like I used to assume I would be.

I hesitate to share this because I don't want to seem like I've arrived or Im a know it all, but I went to my good friends' house whom I hadn't seen in a few months. She was shocked to see how thin I had gotten. I told her I made my original goal weight, and she immediately wanted to know exactly what I did. So I told her. She wasn't thrilled.

I explained how I was hovering around 130, and couldn't lose any more weight until I finally cut the processed junk out. And now i eat clean and plant based. That's not what she was hoping I would say. She goes to the gym every day and exercises in all kinds of different ways; weight lifting, zumba, etc. But she can't lose the fat. She has lots of muscle but its hidden. She kept saying she didn't know what to do. I told her that from my experience its been mostly diet, and that I haven't really formally exercised all winter. I've lost these last 15 from diet. She was surprised by had all kinds of excuses for why she couldn't do that. She can't tolerate most vegetables because they give her tummy problems, and she has bad cravings and gets sick and has headaches when she can't eat her processed foods.

She showed me some product that is full of stuff to "detox" your body. I told her that fruits and veggies detox your body as well. She doesn't want to hear it. She was polite, and we joked about how its easier to exercise than to eat right. But she knows what she's got to do. She wrote down everything I said. When she is ready I will be here, until then I will still be here and supportive of her. Because I know what she's going through.

I didn't really want to share this, because in the past when I've felt like I might be gloating i end up gaining the weight back. So I am avoiding at all costs being a walking weight loss billboard! I don't even say anything about health or my weight on Facebook. No one even knows I've lost weight! I really don't care because Im doing this for me, not for reactions.

Here I go on a tangent again. Lack of sleep I guess!

Good night!


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Romans 8:28-32

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2/27/17 6:58 P

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I've been wobbling around the top of my range for a while, but I wouldn't say I am afraid of unexpected regain. I am living with the choices I make each day (a little over 4 years of maintenance).

I used to be a big advocate of dietary consistency (from the NWCR, eating the same whether weekend, holiday or vacation) but circumstances were such in my life that that didn't work for me. Now my weight is less consistent too. That was my choice. I guess I became less afraid as I developed trust that my body wasn't going to do stuff without any explanation. But the explanations lie in my continuing to be accountable.

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2/27/17 5:18 P

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I second what JEANKNEE and NELLJONES said about eating less now than in my former years. Fair? Nope, but it is what it is. The body doesn't need it.

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Oh my yes, I eat less than I used to! I used to be able to eat lunch at a restaurant, and still be hungry for dinner. Sigh, it doesn't seem fair, but there it is. I remember what I ate to lose weight at age 21. If I ate that way now, I'd be back up to my starting weight.

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Natalie,

As far as quinoa and oats go ... they are poison for my body. They lead to serious inflammation, belly bloat, weight gain and more. I don't say this to alarm you. But, do trust and listen to your body. Just because a food has been touted as healthy does not mean it is healthy for all of us.

I gained the most weight of my life during the decade spent as a vegetarian. Plant based diets do not support the health and well being of my body. But, that's me.

And, things do change. As we age our metabolisms have a tendency to slow requiring less nutritional intake of us. So, will we need to eat less as we age to maintain a certain weight? Yes.

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2/27/17 1:05 A

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It looks like my intuition was correct. Overeating, even a plant based diet, is still bad news. I came across this awesome article, it makes a lot of sense!


https://happyherbivore.com/2013/04/not-l
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My fear of regaining some weight isn't so much from thinking I could backslide, get lazy, and see the scale go up... My biggest fear is that what Im doing now- eating clean and exercising will for some reason just stop working. My fear is that despite eating mostly organic and plant based, and being active and living as a thin person it will one day not be enough anymore. How could I cut back further from 3 meals and no snacking?

I know it seems irrational, maybe it's the yo yo dieter in me talking.

Okay, for example: I got too full this morning before church, I ate too big a portion of my healthy breakfast and my belly was seriously swollen. I looked fat again! Even though everything else looked thin. The same thing happened yesterday too...I ate too big a salad. I guess it just messes with my head seeing my gut so big when it's been flat. It puts my mind in panic mode.

So now I will be making an effort to have smaller portions. Even if it's salad.

I hate how this is so mental!

And I keep thinking "it's impossible to get fat from plants..right?" . But Im afraid my body will convert plants into fat. Could it actually do that? Like from quinoa or oats? I must be crazy lol!

So, ya, that's what Im dealing with. This isn't normal! So glad I found you guys!

Natalie

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2/25/17 10:05 A

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I wouldn't say worried so much as Alarmed when my weight creeps up a couple lbs. It is a wake up call and I know I have to put myself into check. I know my triggers. I have to be mindful of everything I eat. That is my habit now. I am even mindful when I eat poorly. I track all my food so I can really tell just by looking where I have gone off track. Just started reading Beck and also just started weighing in every day. Really don't like seeing that scale fluctuate daily. Must admit it is causing stress.....

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2/25/17 9:27 A

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I am almost 4 years into maintenance and I never stop "worrying" about regain. I don't mean that I actively stress and worry about it, but I worry about it in the respect that I buy healthy food, I don't bring home chips and sugary treats and we don't eat fast food any longer. I actually do eat chocolate each day, in very small controlled portions that I log in my calories for the day. I think we have to "worry" each day about regain because if we become complacent, those pounds will slowly find their way back on to our bodies because we will start thinking it is ok to eat a little more of this and decide not to exercise because we are tired. I don't weigh daily, more like every other day or third day since I too don't want to obsess about it, but I do want to stay on track. I have a center weight that my body seems to like, even if I would like to be a few pounds less, my body does not!
Maintenance does require staying on track with calories and continuing with exercise and being part of the maintenance challenges has really helped me stay focused on where I want to be. Maintenance is awesome, but it is almost as much work as losing if not more since the excitement of the scale moving down is no longer part of your life. I am so thankful for the team members here that help me stay on track and focused!

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Nell, when you said that you don't think anymore "did I get away with it?" when you weigh in, that really hit home for me. Before, when I kept hovering around 130 and gaining and losing again that was my motto. I would secretly think how much processed junk and sweets can I eat and not see the scale go up? I was so focused on weight that my health took a back seat. That's when I realized certain foods were an idol for me.

I wanted to keep junk food in my life while still reaching my goals. But now I realize if my goal is optimum health and feeling good inside and out, I cant keep eating those foods that are hurting my body.

When I had treat days on Fridays it would make eating healthy the next day less appealing. I didn't want an apple the next day, I wanted crackers. And it also made giving into temptation easier during the week since I allowed for junk on Fridays. And it never allowed my taste buds to get fully used to craving healthy things. Eating candy bars and ice cream on Fridays didn't help change my taste buds to enjoying the subtle sweetness of fruit.

I know this was a little off the original topic, but I just thought I would share. I was triggered by your comment lol!

Natalie

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I love these answers! When I think about my past and allow emotions to creep in I get fearful. But when I think logically the fear goes away. I know if I weight daily or every other day I can catch the upward trend.

Today I reached my original goal weight, the weight I originally set out to lose. It was exciting! But Im not going to become complacent now. I still have more work to do. But now its less about "not being fat anymore" and more about improving my health.

I have been reading about nutrition and how fruits and veggies actually clean your cells and heal your body. That motivates me to eat plant based for the health as well as staying slim.


Thank you everyone for your answers, they were quite eye opening. It gives me much to think about.

Natalie

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Romans 8:28-32

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Highest weight:177 lbs, December 2010

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I have no fear as long as I stay connected right here every day with the maintainers who know how it's done. Weighing every day keeps me accountable too.

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2/24/17 7:47 A

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I didn't discover the Beck books or Barbara Berkeley's Refuse to Regain until after I was already in maintenance... and by then, I'd come to similar (but not identical) conclusions "on my own". Like NELLJONES, I found these books explaining some of the "why it works", too.

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I agree with Susie that the Maintenance challenges have been wonderful in keeping up the excitement of a Program once there is no longer the excitement of seeing the number on a scale to down.

And Krista mentioned Judith Beck. She explains a way to think about weight loss and weight control in such a way as to take the fear out of weight control. If I had to rely on willpower I'd be sunk. Instead, I rely on the habits I learned in WW long ago, habits that I learned but didn't really understand until I read Beck. Fear is paralyzing, so rather than fear, she explains how to Think It Through.

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A few weeks after reading The Spark and into my healthy lifestyle journey I felt safe, my new habits held me up like water holds up a confident swimmer.
I believe this is because I built good habits, they made me feel good, like eating lots of fruits and vegetables, planning and tracking my food, working out, drinking water, getting enough sleep.
Looking back, I notice I didn't rely on willpower much.
Willpower is easily exhausted and hard to keep up,
but habits are reliable, the more I used them, the stronger they became,
and the less conscious effort was required from me.
... and I always was a helpless yo-yo dieter before this point.

Like others before me, I have no fear. I know I can maintain my weight as long as I follow my plan.
I know many people have a strong resistance against planning, but I like planning and predictability. The little resistance I had evaporated when I did the Beck Diet Solution program 2 years ago (very helpful cognitive behavior therapy self help book).

I haven't thought about scream weight for long.
My original SP goal weight was 66 kg and I was so happy when I reached it... and ended up at 62 kg... 2 years later I was up at 64 kg.
I think that is my scream weight - I still look good and feel good, but just.
I have never got near that again, as -thanks to Beck Diet Solution- I have been at my happy weight 59+-1 kg in the past 2 years, and that is also my low scream weight. If I have several weigh ins below 58 kg, I add a small amount of food to my planned meals. Recently I added 10 grams of walnuts to my breakfast and an apple to my dinner.
If I see an upward trend, I decrease amount of my planned food a little.
No need to make drastic changes either way, and definitely no need to change my exercise routine (unless, of course, if I'm bored of it).

Weight fluctuation is something we have to accept. It is normal for a human body to weigh 4-5 pounds more or less overnight due to salt and water retention, not to mention the hormonal changes of female cycle.
Look ate my past one year, a lot of ups and downs, but the overall trend is quite flat.



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1. Two weeks into Spark People I knew I would never gain the weight back. One or two lbs. up did not bother me one iota. I learned real fast from one of the spark coaches that there is such a thing as weight fluctuation so I only weighed once a week until I hit my first long term goal which was to be under two lbs. As soon as I reached that goal I weighed every day to make sure I did not weigh in at 200 ever again.

My next goal was to be as far away from 200 as possible. I currently weigh 147.8 lbs. and always take part in the Maintenance challenges. When I can get below my chosen Center weight and can keep it under that weight for a few challenges then I try 1 lbs less as my new center weight. I took what I learned from the Spark Coach as gospel and it has served me well.

Re-read Coach Dean Anderson's articles he knows a thing or two. He has a series of articles he wrote that are the BEST and I strongly recommend that you (if you're serious) read and do the work he suggests, I think you will learn to trust yourself and not have to worry about whether or not you are going to regain. He also wrote the following article that may be of interest to you. "3 Strategies to Prevent Relapse After Reaching Your Goal Weight" By Dean Anderson.

I used to believe in the set point theory and maybe it is accurate but for me it has been me causing the I don't think I can lose anymore weight. I felt like I had to eat 1500 Kcal a day or I would die of starvation. I can eat comfortably at 1200 calories and be satisfied and if I work a bit harder at the gym well I can have a few more. Like the note at the bottom of the Nutrition Tracker says "The more you burn the more you can eat!"

I am retired now and my job today is to keep myself healthy. I do that by doing what I learned on Spark People. "A routine negates the act of having to will or motivate yourself to do something. Willpower is finite, and motivation is not constant. That is why relying on routine to accomplish tasks is a lot easier than relying on willpower and motivation."





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For me I am still in the worry phase of gaining it back. I gain so easily! I do have a plan but so does my body and it doesn't tell me when the rules have changed. What worked last month or year doesn't necessarily work today.

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As long as I stick to my Plan, I never have to worry. I weigh every morning just as confirmation, and if I'm up a little I know it's sodium (or summer. I hold water when it's humid), but sodium has no calories so it will take care of itself.

I weigh less now than 10 years ago, but I'm 10 years older so can't carry weight like I used to. I can't eat the way I could when I was younger, oh well. I lost my weight in 1970, so by now you'd think it would be second nature, but I still have to plan my food and check it off each day. That's OK, I cook and eat very well every day.

I don't eat between meals, I eat at a restaurant maybe once a month, I don't drink alcohol. I have some cookies at Christmas and a piece of pie at Thanksgiving, but that's about it for desserts. I haven't had a potato chip or a doughnut in years. So far I am willing to do those things, but the day may come when I'm not, and will be willing to maintain at the higher weight that would result. It is my choice every day, I just can't gnash my teeth at wanting to eat more and weigh less. I agree with ONEKIDSMOM, as long as I stick with my Plan, I never have to worry. That freedom from worry (No jumping on the scale to see "Did I get away with it?") is what makes life serene. There is nothing to "get away with". I don't know what to do about the getting older thing.

I didn't choose 98.6 as my body temp, but I can choose my weight. And my hair color and the length of my nails. All those choices are personal, no excuses or explanations needed. And I can change my mind at any time.

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I agree with ONEKIDSMOM on all she says. I have only been maintaining for two years next month, but I have become more confident because I love and trust this side of the "mark" that I work that much harder!

I also agree with ONEKIDSMOM's last comment that we will all have our own answers. Keep at it long enough and it just seems to "become you"

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Depending on how much weight you've lost and how many times you've been through the cycle of loss/regain before... it may be YEARS before you start to feel comfortable with the normal fluctuations of the scale!

For me, it's more behavior than the number on the scale that causes me to freak out. As long as I'm following the plan, no freak outs, and no obsession. Daily weigh ins... NO MORE THAN ONCE A DAY... help me. Tracking trends helps.

I *do* have a weight that I consider a "top" AND one that I consider a "bottom" scream weight... when it's time to track to lose a couple or time to track to try to GAIN a little.

And, as long as I stick with the program, I am confident that I'll stay in a healthy range.

Unfortunately, for me, nope, my body has not stopped fighting to gain back... it has a natural tendency to want to regain. But only if I go off my program of healthy eating and activity. Bottom line, you have to keep doing what you did to lose in order to maintain. And I'm in year 7 of maintaining. This has not changed.

Mostly I think less about my weight now than when I was at the top of my range. And I wasn't obsessed about it while losing the pounds, either... I knew if I behaved in a healthy way, my body would FIND its way to a healthy weight. And, sure enough, it did.

Your body is smart enough to know where "home" is for it, your job is to give it what it needs.

I suspect that every maintainer will have their own answers! We are not identical.

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Was there a point during maintenance when you finally let go of the fear of gaining your weight back?

How long into maintenance were you when the little ups and downs on the scale didn't freak you out anymore? Does weighing in daily help with that, or create obsession?

Do you have a weight that you do not allow yourself to get higher? What about if you start weight training?

Do you trust in your ability to keep the weight off?

And also, does it seem like your body starts to get used to its new weight and stops fighting to gain it back? I would think after staying a certain size that the body naturally developed a new setpoint.

I thought of one more; do you feel like you obsess or think about your weight less now that you are in maintenance compared to when you were losing the weight?

I hope these aren't too many questions. Just some things that have been on my mind lately. I feel nervous lately, like getting this close to goal is too good to be true and Im just waiting for the other shoe to drop.

Natalie

Washington state


Romans 8:28-32

Trusting God every step of the way

Highest weight:177 lbs, December 2010

The start of my last weight loss journey: November 22nd 2015 @158



Height: 5 ft


 current weight: 135.6 
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