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3/16/12 8:22 P

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That's more like it! Good for you. The truth is that our bodies and mind will heal if we just get out of our own way for a while. Sometimes, all that is called for is rest. It sounds to me like the ticket for you is more like something nurturing vs. something restrictive. Do you enjoy massage or facials? Is there a guilty pleasure outside of food that you might give yourself...a bubble bath, a movie you've wanted to see, a day trip to an art festival-even a day alone with peace and quiet....whatever sounds like a lot of fun for you...you should do that and pour it on thick! Give yourself a treat every week for the next month like you are the most important thing ever. Balance with food will come again, but for now it might be better to focus on doing whatever brings you joy and rest.

"Focus on the journey, not the destination. Joy is found not in finishing something, but in doing it"
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3/16/12 10:09 A

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Thanks TG. What you are saying makes me realize how much I am already still doing well. For example, I do take my vitamins!

I tracked food yesterday and did well. One day "in a row"! (Hoping to add to that number!)

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3/15/12 9:27 A

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Judi-cutie-be nice to yourself! Having a death in the family is extremely difficult and stressful, and may not be the time for you to set yourself up for feeling worse.

Consider maybe tracking something that is highly achievable. Like, commit to just taking your multivitamins every day for a week and see how that goes. Then, add one more thing as you are able to do it ...and when your confidence and resolve get better with each success, you might then be more able to tackle managing your food intake.

You are grieving. Be gentle!
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3/15/12 12:45 A

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Also, Misty, I think that knowing that you will be tracking it is a deterrent to eating foods that are not already in your favorites or easy to track. That is what helps me when I am tracking.

(Now of course, I have not been tracking lately. I am just in a funk and in a state of stress ever since my father died about six weeks ago.) I always resist getting back to tracking. But when I do it, I am always glad. What is wrong with me?!?!?! I just don't feel like starting.

Maybe I will go and try to track in some of tomorrow. I'll give it a try...

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3/14/12 4:11 P

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In terms of the black/white thing, I try to remember that if I spill some milk, I clean it up. I don't take the rest of the carton and purposely spill that too. Don't know if that will help you.

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3/14/12 2:50 P

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Thanks for all the info. Haven't been able to look for any books or articles yet due to a busy schedule. I'll try the library first.

I use sparkpeople to plan my food for the next day, but being a black/white no gray person, if I go off plan I tend to just throw up my hands and eat what I want and not track it. I have people who say write it down anyway, but who wants to look up fast food, etc. in the nutrition section and if I can't get the exact count of calories why bother. I have issues! Hard to let go of a 30 year pattern.

I also find it hard to track my exercise on the tracker so I usually don't. I'd like to know/see how much I worked off. But being a Finance Director I want to know exactly how many calories down to the 1, same as the food.

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3/13/12 12:28 A

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Welcome. Having not gotten diagnosed until I was a bit short of 59, I too got that huge AHA moment as in oh - this is why I am like this and why my life has taken the turns it has. Have not found the right drug for me yet (if there is one). Next to try is Vyvanse. Good list of books from others. Be sure to check your library unless you have money to throw around.

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3/12/12 7:59 A

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Not a thing wrong with that! Tracking can be very helpful. One thing that that I am trying to get better at is to get in touch with what my body needs and when it needs it. I think we really lose that sometimes through all the dieting, etc. At least, I did. I would get more concerned about following my plan than I would about listening to what exactly was going on and what I need.
I'm still not awesome at it, just much better. Now, I let myself gain a little weight in the winter, and then it comes off when I exercise more in the summer. I take vitamins every other day except the week before my period. I give myself more rest after exercise because I'm older now. I let myself eat a lot more fat than I did before, and I eat until I'm full. I realize that our bodies have cycles throughout the months and the year as a whole. I'm still learning...

"Focus on the journey, not the destination. Joy is found not in finishing something, but in doing it"
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3/10/12 11:11 P

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I am different from TG. When I am tracking my food, I do better. When I stop tracking, I go astray. When I want to do really, really well, I just start to track ahead of time. This is one of the things I learned from the Beck Diet Solution. She really wants people to plan their food in advance. So, when I am really on track, I get on SP and I type in my whole next day. I always fight it when I have gotten off tracking. That is where I am right now. Fighting it. But without fail, I start to lose again when I track, and I also feel less stressed because it takes the decision out of the moment. (I do allow myself to make adjustments, but by planning ahead, it sets an intention.)

So this sounds so good. So why am I not doing it!!! I started Beck almost exactly four years ago. And in the first three years, there were probably only a few weeks where I did not track. Then I thought maybe I was ready to give it up, and it did not go well! But I keep testing that again and again. I really want to get myself back on track. I am just so overwhelmed at the moment. Soon....

Sparkfully Yours, Judi

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3/10/12 9:29 P

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Books for ADD that I like are:

Driven to Distraction
I'm Not Lazy, Crazy or Stupid

It is great to read the books that make us realize that we are okay even if we are a bit "different".

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3/10/12 9:17 P

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Focusing on health is the best way to go, and you will be surprised at how little you have to do to make big changes!
You didn't ask for my advice, but I'll give it anyway (ha ha). You don't necessarily need to count calories or log food in...unless it's really helpful to you to do so. Personally, this works sometimes as a kickoff, but I'm terrible at staying consistent (ADHD resistance to routine) so I always drop off eventually. Besides, turning my food into a science project always made me a little neurotic.
I honestly never counted a calorie or fat gram or carb. I just planned to eat real food, not after 6:30pm, and I cut down on sugars dramatically. I still eat a lot of fat, but it's good fat. I lost 50 lbs doing this, and have maintained it.
Not that you have to do this, mind you...if you're on a roll, by all means, keep it up! Just know that there are all kinds of paths to health and you have to find what works for you.
All you have to do for exercise is something slightly more taxing than what you were doing before. For most people, walking is a great place to start. Are you into a good exercise routine?

Good books I liked for ADHD:
anything by Dr. Amen
ADHD for dummies
The ADHD guide to organization
Is it you, me, or ADHD?

Hope this helps, and keep up the great kick you're on!
TG

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3/10/12 1:03 P

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I want to do some reading on this so I'll look into Dr. Amen's books. I don't really know where to start for good information and I have to be careful not to jump into this and drop everything else, my normal habit.

As much as I want to get thin now, I'm trying to get my mindset to get healthy. I'm working on staying in my calorie range and exercising everyday. That in itself is really hard for me because I have so much I think I need to be doing and then I get overwhelmed again. And the time I spend on meal planning and exercising I think I could be doing this, this & this.

So, for today I have a plan and will do my best to stick to it.

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3/10/12 11:12 A

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You know, I've said this before...I'll say it again...it is no accident that ADHD's can find themselves constantly embroiled in compulsive overeating behaviors. One of the more facinating and popular books out there that touches on this is Dr. Amen's "Change your brain, change your body". He has written several books on ADHD (he has it too), and has a clinic in DC that I would love to visit if I ever find $4k lying around. He has done thousands upon thousands of brain scans, and consistently finds that certain parts of the brain...such as the cerebral cortex in the ADHD brain, is underactive (impulsivity, forgetfullness, etc.) while others are overactive. His clinic works to restore more activity to the parts that need it, and less to the ones that are on hyperdrive. He uses a combination of allopathic and homeopathic methods, and his theories strike me as very intriguing...it's always a combination of symptoms and never a black and white approach. Makes more sense to me since there is a wide variety of ADHD symptoms amongst us. Anyway, it's a book I really enjoyed reading, and it was nice to see I wasn't alone in my constant need for sweets (stimulant vs. tranquilizer effect). Food is a powerful way to self-medicate a hay-wired brain. It just sucks as a long-term solution. :o)

As for the depression, you've found the right club! Depression is extremely common as a copilot with ADHD. Not that people picking on us our whole lives won't do that by itself, but brain chemisty in the ADHD is such that we are prone to this. I am a huge fan of buproprion (generic Welbutrin). It's one of the few things I've found to make a dent in my wellbeing. I still am wired to eat too much food, but without it I'll eat the paint off the wall and it keeps the physical symptoms of depression in check for me. I took it for a year or so when I lost my job, and once I felt better, I tried to wean off of it. My body hated that idea. I ate everything in sight, and just didn't feel as focused. So, I'm back on and I'm a lifer as far as I'm concerned. We have to do what it takes, sister!

It's not my day job, but I have a degree in fitness and wellness, so I love to pore over literature and studies and anything health related. I have found that managing my ADHD and my life for that matter, is like juggling 10 balls. You have to get the right sleep. You have to take the right meds or supplements. You have connect to the right people. You have to find how to eat well. You have to move correctly. Then you can work on getting organized and all those other ADHD tricks. Don't try to do it all at once (that's not ADHD, is it? Ha ha!)
Little baby steps!
TG

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3/9/12 3:01 P

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I was borderline diabetic too. In fact I had tipped over the magic number and I asked my doctor to give me a chance to turn it around before he diagnosed me. I lost weight and it did go was back to the lower end of prediabetic, where it had been for 15 years. So I turned it around. I still need to lose more weight, but the first 40 was enough to help.

I went on medication when I found out about ADD, and it does help, but one thing that also helps is understanding what is going on. It really helps to give yourself a break, to not constantly blame yourself. Then you can learn strategies. It give the challenges a whole new tone.

Sparkfully Yours, Judi

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3/9/12 1:30 P

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Thanks for the warm welcome.

I have been to numerous counselors over the past 25 years. We'd work on my history and depression and I've tried anti-depressants over the past 20 years. Finally settled on bupropion 9 years ago and was told I would just need to stay on it by my dr.

So this time a different dr. told me last year to find a counselor for my eating issues after I'd lost 80# in 7 months and put it back on in 9 months. She said I'm borderline diabetic and if I could lose it I might prevent the inevitable.

At my 2nd therapy appt. it was suggested that I might be ADHD and I thought no way. But as she explained and asked more questions it became real obvious. As I go thru my days or think on my childhood it starts to make sense. I can see how getting married, having kids and working full time have made it much harder to maintain everything and why I've felt myself getting worse. It explains why I've felt frazzled the past few years with no one understanding why or why I couldn't fix it.

I know it won't be any miracle cure, but I'm hoping to get some help from meds. I'm quite frustrated because my dr. wants to see me first and she's booked for 2 weeks.

I can ramble or tend tell my life story, so I apologize. Thanks for being there and being part of this team.

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3/9/12 12:41 P

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Hi and welcome!
What was it that led you to get diagnosed? I wasn't diagnosed until grad school, so I got to enjoy all kinds of quirky traits until being able to identify the issue.
You are not alone, and we all have lots of good things to share. Looking forward to hearing your story!
TG

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3/8/12 10:22 P

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Yes, we are glad to have you here. I learn so much from the people on the team!

Sparkfully Yours, Judi

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3/8/12 8:07 P

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Welcome Misty. Join in the discussions when you can. We are happy you joined. It is great to share our experiences with others. It helps us to understand why we do the things we do.

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3/8/12 6:25 P

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Hello all, I was just diagnosed with ADHD in the last couple weeks so I'm searching for info & answers (obsessively, imagine). I'm glad I found this group and hope it helps as I figure this out. As I go thru my days now I'm constantly thinking "I see these traits in my life here and here and there and there....".

I've been using SparkPeople for a few years but still struggle to get healthy. I've always focused on losing weight but now am trying to think of it as getting healthy. And now it's making more sense why I keep fighting against myself.

My computer time is often limited but I will check in as much as I can. Thanks to all who have shared, it was helpful reading old posts.

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