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5/10/19 9:59 A

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One of the problems with added sugar is that there is no satiety with it. A person who eats a lot of confectionery, icecream and sweeted sodas will likely suffer from health issues through lack of healthy nutrition (think fibre, protein, healthy fats, vitamins, minerals, etc.) and will likely eat a ton more calories which obviously will impact on most people's weight. But health doesn't just get impacted by weight.

One thing that people here have missed ..... a high added-sugar diet can and does affect teeth. In NZ a lot of of young children have rotten teeth - even rotten baby teeth which needs general anesthesia to remove them.

In 2017 more than 6,600 children were admitted to hospital because of their teeth. We are talking about a country with a total population of about 4.5 million.
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I have personally noticed a lot of young kids with their teeth in a very bad state. I have seen some of those young kids guzzling sodas out of a baby's bottle previously, or a sipper cut later on. A lot of people don't seem to realize, rotten teeth can cause a myriad of other health issues, some of which can be very serious - even life threatening.

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4/24/19 11:23 P

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Sorry, but I just don't agree with that as stated. Yes, sugar is empty and pretty devoid of nutritional value. But calories are still the culprit. Three thousand calories a day of vegetables will make you fat. There may be fine points to argue here, but I don't think calories. Dr. Fung or anybody else is free to prove to me that hormones or whatever else are responsible for the obesity of someone eating three thousand calories a day and I'll still call BS. Excessive calories are the culprit in obesity and I've seen no contrary evidence. I'll stand corrected when any of these internet gurus can show me how to eat three thousand calories per day of anything and not gain weight.

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4/24/19 11:05 P

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Yes it is. Watch the movie, "That Sugar Film". It's changing how I see a calorie and it's worth as a nutritional source. A 500 calories of sugar is not the same as 500 calories of broccoli. Sugar is the culprit for weight gain, not calories per se.

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4/23/19 6:14 A

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@PRACCHI22, MERRELLS Re: Excess sugar.

There is a family member who lives in same house, insists on eating things with sugar.
Yesterday, while we were out, instead of eating a balanced lunch, ( food is prepared in the fridge), she ate an entire chocolate bar, ( 3 servings) and a Kit Kat bar, and entire pint of “ Enlightened brand” ice cream, chocolate peanut butter flavor.

At her place seating, in two dishes, I had put slices of fresh cucumber, a pre-sliced cantaloupe, and a tall glass of water with a cucumber slice, untouched.
As I returned, she drank down an entire can of raspberry or orange seltzer, I suggest sips.
Has been to the Dr’s in last 3 weeks, a fasting of 180; this Dr. ( residents of clinic) said need to confirm w/ a second fasting blood test.
A couple of years ago, her A1C blood test was elevated at 6 point something.
She was put on Metformin pill, but only for 6 months & the consequent resident Dr ‘s did not order it.
My point is, what article can I show her?
She does not listen, my mother had said that, too.


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4/21/19 9:15 A

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@NITEMAN3D I'm a firm believer in the "chew my calories" and I had to learn after monitoring my nutient breakdown.

You gain strength, courage and confidence by every experience in which you really stop to look fear in the face.

Mistakes are the portals of discovery.

Don't be afraid to give your best at what seemingly are small jobs. Every time you conquer one it makes you that much stronger. If you do the little jobs well, the big ones will tend to take care of themselves.

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4/17/19 10:37 P

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I think I've come up with a solution to the endless contradictory studies. It seems there are a lot of studies about studies now that simply determines the longest-lived segment of whatever it is the studies were about. Think I'll start following their advice?

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4/17/19 3:08 P

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I don't use a lot of sugar, mostly stick to Splenda. I'll use honey or raw sugar at times in hot tea.
I do wonder about some of these studies. I remember back in the '80s when "if you have high cholesterol and eat an egg, you'll die". It really was that bad. Now eggs are good for you. Remember "don't eat any fat", or "no salt"?
I think you have to look at what your body needs. I think St. Paul said it best, "everything in moderation".



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4/17/19 2:22 P

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Anything in excess is usually bad for you. Moderation along with mindfulness.



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4/17/19 1:55 P

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I guess I'm "lucky" that I don't like sugar sweetened beverages - I never have. But sometimes I wish that losing weight for me was as easy as just giving up soda! We always read that the biggest source of excess calories in the modern American diet is soda. For most people, then, giving up soda or other sugary drinks means you drop pounds very quickly. Since I never consumed sugar sweetened drinks (or much sugary food) to begin with, I can't get those kind of results.



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4/8/19 9:58 P

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I am a Sugar Addict. Haven't had it in 36 days. Also trying to eat minimal carbs. I don't even want to try baking anything w/sugar. I will be off & running again if I do. I stopped using artificial sweeteners a few years ago. Some of them were causing side effects for me. I try to calm my cravings w/100% Cranberry Juice diluted w/water, ice & lemon wedge. Also eat fruit salad.

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4/8/19 8:45 A

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I try to avoid both real and artificial sugars whenever possible.

JERF - Just Eat Real Food

I'm not a doctor or dietitian. I'm just a real whole foods nutrition nerd.

I eat mostly vegetables, fats, meats, some fruit and dark chocolate. Unprocessed and preservative free food. And it's changed my life!

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Lowering my A1C and keeping my blood sugar levels steady eating LCHF.


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I use, stevia & sugar mixed in recipes, ex. If recipe calls for 2 cups of sugar I use 3/4 cup stevia and 3/4 cup sugar, so total count is less, in coffee, tea I use stevia.

I have pleurisy, 2 types of anemia, macrocytic anemia, Iron deficiency anemia, from blood transfusions with wrong antibodies, causes blood to replace daily instead of 100 days, chronic pneumonia, pleurisy, chronic kidney disease, a partially collapsed lung, low blood pressure & blood clots in both lungs for 3 years. Now formed scar tissue.I am 56 years old. I had cervical cancer 6 years ago, no signs last 4 years as well. I have new blood clots now,2019.I am on P.S.T. time zone.


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4/5/19 1:14 P

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No, artificial sweeteners *aren't* worse at any level. Read it all, especially the part about reverse causation and "provable". There is also a sentence that points out a longer life for those who use artificial sweeteners in lieu of sugar.

For that matter, even the sugar condemnation is kind of negated by this paragraph, "It's important to note that the study found only an association and cannot prove that drinking soda or other sugary drinks causes early death."

This sensationalist reporting is so typical every time a new study comes out. Reporters cherry pick statements out of context to make their article fit the headline. Many times the final article looks nothing like the original facts, but mostly just a little twisting to make it all more lurid.

Finally, as with all these studies, I'd like to see raw numbers. They tend to use a percentage of the percentage to make it sound ever so much bigger when in fact the real number may be so small as to have no statistical relevance.

My point is not that added sugar is harmless because I agree that it is bad. My point is that we shouldn't form opinions based on one individual study. I too, post a lot of these links, but I post them to provide ongoing evidence and not with the intention of drawing a conclusion from what only one research group has to say on a subject.

That's the beauty of a program like SparkPeople that forces you to be aware of what you're stuffing in your face so if you do have some sugar you're aware of it and offset it in another area. I seriously doubt that the people being studied in this group are people with normal BMI and healthy vital signs. So many variables for a study that's being done on information databases rather than actual human contact. Anyway, my point is to temper your conclusions by realizing that numbers can be flexible according to the agenda of the authors.

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4/5/19 8:24 A

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I thought the artificial sweeteners bit was the most interesting. It's better in small doses, but worse than sugar in larger quantities.

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4/5/19 6:40 A

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Too much sugar in the diet is not a good thing at all; it can lead you to some serious permanent health issues.

Signs of excessive sugar-

Low Energy level
Acne issues
Premature Ageing
Increase the risk of depression
Risk of Cancer
Obesity
Heart Diseases
Risk of Diabetes type 2

I learned these points from a blog named knowyourfood.in

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3/23/19 2:12 P

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If you buy into Dr. Fung. I don't. My a1c was pushing 14 five years ago and the last three of my six-month checkups have been 5 or less with no Diabetes meds. As you state, certain individuals may benefit from intense restrictions, but for most of us, not so much. To each his own. If you try it one way and it works, that'd be the way to go, for you. I do know this for a fact where I'm concerned. Intensely restrictive diets don't work for me long term (or even not so long, for that matter). If you can hack it, more power to you. This is the SparkPeople website and SparkPeople advocates a balanced eating plan coupled with daily fitness activities. It's the Spark Solution. It works.

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3/23/19 11:09 A

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Not true for everyone. For some, taking in excess sugar is far more dangerous than just a bit of 'empty calories'. Not everyone can process the sugar, so it's much more than just a calorie vs a calorie, it's a dangerous spike in blood sugar or an unhealthy release of too much insulin vs a healthy, filling food that we can process properly.

A calorie is just a unit of energy, but our bodies are hormonal, they react to *what* our food is, not just how much energy it has.

I practice intermittent fasting and keto
Diet Doctor Dr. Jason Fung www.dietdoctor.com/authors/d
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@NITEMAN3D Good point...And quite true.

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3/22/19 10:15 P

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For me it's not about the calories so much as the form my calories take. Chewing is a big part of satiety for me and I can't chew liquids. Just as with most studies, they don't talk about calorie limits which all of us using the SparkPeople method have... an upper limit, I mean. If I eat two thousand calories of steak or two thousand calories of apple juice I know which one would be easier to do for me. So... I don't drink *any* calories. I chew all my calories. This tendency to hang a convenient blame sign around the neck of certain foods can't be applied to those of us who control our calorie intake. Nutritional value may vary, but calories are mostly just calories.

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3/20/19 7:17 A

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That is shocking news!!

Said no one ever. lol

JERF - Just Eat Real Food

I'm not a doctor or dietitian. I'm just a real whole foods nutrition nerd.

I eat mostly vegetables, fats, meats, some fruit and dark chocolate. Unprocessed and preservative free food. And it's changed my life!

5'4"
Maintaining since 2012
42 years old
2 kids

Lowering my A1C and keeping my blood sugar levels steady eating LCHF.


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3/20/19 6:48 A

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Yes, we need to limit sugar. However, I disagree that 100% juice is as soda and other processed drinks.Is eating an apple better than drinking a cup of 100% pure apple juice or cider? Yes but you can't compare real juice to manufactured drinks in my opinion.

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3/18/19 11:10 P

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This should not be news to anyone here.

https://www.livescience.com/65011-sugar-sweetened-beverages-early-death.html

IMO, they should have included fruit juice in the list, it has as much natural sugar as the soda and sports drinks.






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