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8/8/19 8:19 A

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The US is a great place to visit (with some extra health insurance, just in case) but I don’t think I’d like to live there. Sadly so behind in so many areas.

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I eat mostly vegetables, fats, meats, some fruit and dark chocolate. Unprocessed and preservative free food. And it's changed my life!

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8/7/19 9:33 A

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I'm in New Jersey where there are NO laws requiring lunch breaks.

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Sorry I’m going off topic a bit.

FTSOLK - What do you do? Where do you work?

Where I live there are laws that mandate a break of 30 minutes for every 5 hours worked. The 30 minute break does not have to be paid.

JERF - Just Eat Real Food

I'm not a doctor or dietitian. I'm just a real whole foods nutrition nerd.

I eat mostly vegetables, fats, meats, some fruit and dark chocolate. Unprocessed and preservative free food. And it's changed my life!

5'4"
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42 years old
2 kids

Lowering my A1C and keeping my blood sugar levels steady eating LCHF.


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8/6/19 5:42 P

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I disagree.

When I'm working, I can't eat whenever I want. There are days when I might eat breakfast at 8am and I don't get to eat again until lunch at 4:30-5 (and occasionally, I only have 15 minutes to eat that meal). I think having a schedule where you can decide when you want to eat each meal is ideal.


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"The ability to subordinate an impulse to a value is the essence of a proactive person."- Stephen R. Covey

"You say, 'I am allowed to do anything'-but not everything is good for you. You say, 'I am allowed to do anything'�but not everything is beneficial."- 1 Corinthians 10:23 (NLT)

�I want to lose weight by eating nothing but moon pies, which have significantly less gravity than earthier foods such as fruits and vegetables.� -Jarod Kintz

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the best i can do is not eat from 9pm till 9am, i am retired and i have too many temptations, good luck, i think if you work its easier

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Personally, I like aiming for somewhere in the 14:10 range. Right now, my window is from 11am to 9pm, but I'm thinking about shifting it up to 10 to 8 or 10:30 to 8:30. My biggest challenge is finding a schedule that's sustainable. I'm pretty happy with eating dinner around 7-8pm and may be willing to push it up a LITTLE earlier; it's just a matter of being able to break my fast and eat lunch.

I will say that IF seems to be a lot easier for those who are able to eat when they want and aren't restricted to only eating during scheduled lunch breaks (if they even GET a break).

Lissa Krisitne

"The ability to subordinate an impulse to a value is the essence of a proactive person."- Stephen R. Covey

"You say, 'I am allowed to do anything'-but not everything is good for you. You say, 'I am allowed to do anything'�but not everything is beneficial."- 1 Corinthians 10:23 (NLT)

�I want to lose weight by eating nothing but moon pies, which have significantly less gravity than earthier foods such as fruits and vegetables.� -Jarod Kintz

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There are different methods of doing IF. You have to find what will work for you, if any. I do well when I do either 5:2 or 16:8. I may do it for a week or a month at a time. That is sustainable for me because I pick and choose what will work for me at the time. Nothing says you have to commit to one for any period of time. If it works, great. Keep it up. If it's getting too hard, change it up and try it again later if you want. There is no one size fits all.

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Good morning. I am implementing IF as a strategy for weight loss and the additional benefits. For those who chose to leave snarky comments, please do a little research or simply say nothing. This method is not a form of starvation and may have several additional health benefits.

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I've tried 16:8 IF in the past after reading some articles by Dr. Satchin Panda of the Salk Institute. He focuses on the effect of IF on your metabolism, not necessarily weight loss (more of a side effect of lower caloric intake by not eating all hours of the day and evening). Although there are mixed reports about whether consuming coffee (decaf or caf) or tea "breaks" the fast, I decided to continue drinking decaffeinated coffee in the morning but without my normal cream. Wow - I thought that would be hard, but even now that I'm not doing IF, I continue to take my coffee black. Although I'm not actively trying to do an IF, I generally eat breakfast at 10 or 10:30, a salad for lunch around 1pm and dinner around 7pm or so. It's the post dinner time period that I have to really discipline myself around. Lots of water and tea, but not too much so I don't wake up in the middle of the night and have to go the bathroom.



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I just started intermittent fasting this week and I love it! The main thing is I'm no longer endlessly snacking at night - and I'm not in such a hurry to eat in the morning which I have always struggled with eating in the morning. It has helped my morning yoga. I basically eat between 11 am and 6 pm, but last night, for example, I knew I had a dinner I had to go to that would last until 8, so I ate a little later in the morning. Hoping to / planning to stick with this for the next six months, so I can start releasing this extra 75 pounds.

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I am trying to follow (honestly not very strictly) 16/8 hours of not taking calories / eat or drink. So far I am ok - not as craving food as expected, and I am slowly loosing weight, which is fine. Good day to all!

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I’m plant based, and IF, unless I listen to the “Chinese Whispers”.

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I’m with ya GRATISHHORE.

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“When 'eating all the time' is the norm”

Where did that come from?

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So, the fact that I don’t mindlessly snack while watching the/a tube or, that I don’t scoop ice cream at 2 a.m. qualifies me as IF?

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Very true-our bodies all run a bit differently.



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And the system that works for me is 2 meals a day, no starving involved.

Acknowledging that different paths work for different people need not be revolutionary.

I practice intermittent fasting and keto
Diet Doctor Dr. Jason Fung www.dietdoctor.com/authors/d
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Intensive Dietary Management idmprogram.com/blog/
Guide to low carb eating www.dietdoctor.com/low-carb/
keto/visual-guides

About The Obesity Code www.bewell.com/blog/q-dr-jas
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I have a sister in law in Alaska named BJ. I found the program that worked for me was 3 meals and 2 healthy snacks. There's no starving involved.



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Maybe it became worthy of a name because some people think the ideal dietary strategy is to eat 3 meals a day, plus snacks in between, to never let yourself feel hunger - because some people insist that skipping a meal is akin to heresy, or say "You're fasting? OMG that's SO unhealthy!"

No one said not eating for 16 hours was a tremendous feat. It's just acknowledging it's a schedule. When 'eating all the time' is the norm, being assured that not eating all the time is perfectly fine is, indeed, worthy of note.




I practice intermittent fasting and keto
Diet Doctor Dr. Jason Fung www.dietdoctor.com/authors/d
r-jason-fung-m-d

Intensive Dietary Management idmprogram.com/blog/
Guide to low carb eating www.dietdoctor.com/low-carb/
keto/visual-guides

About The Obesity Code www.bewell.com/blog/q-dr-jas
on-fung-book-obesity-code/

Keto Christina www.youtube.com/channel/UCqP
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Well that was a little condescending....

The umbrella term "intermittent fasting" refers to a style of eating where a person alternates between periods of fasting (eating no or very little calories) and periods of normal eating. There are several methods, the time-restricted or 16:8 method being only one of them.



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Is this real life? When did we lose contact with common sense? When did not eating for 16 hours become a tremendous feat, worthy of a name? Intermittent means “stopping and starting”. Fasting means “not eating”, not “starving”, and not even “eating less”. We all “fast” when we sleep, hence “breakfast”. “Intermittent fasting” is a silly term for “not eating all the time”, but people like silly, I suppose.



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that sounds doable...im trying to deal with the time change still, im eating much to late in the evening.

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I am just beginning IF. I am doing 16/8. I fast from 7 pm until 11 am.

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i tried to do this full time but found i ended up caught in the revolving door of life. i do try to not eat between 9pm and 9am and it improves my blood sugar readings

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I've chosen to add IF in to my current calorie restrictive diet. I have not cut any food groups, including sugar, but I am restricting calories to a deficit that works for weight loss for me and choosing to consume those calories within an 8-hour window each day to allow full digestion of the previous days food and allow for the autophagy process to begin (after the approximate 12 hour time frame) to get the benefits of autophagy and allow my body to begin using fat stores for energy. As I've just started this I've been doing a bit of research and the studies over the last couple of years are still inconclusive regarding results but it is promising and the anecdotal evidence shows many people see results just from adding IF to their routine. It's not a diet in itself but rather a strategy for helping the body use calories more efficiently and it can be done long term which is the only reason i'm even entertaining trying it.



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Also! If you decide to try IF, I would recommend time-restricted method over the 5:2 diet or any other variation for most people. You're more likely to be able consume a balanced diet using that method compared to days when you're only eating 500-600 calories.



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I just did a project/presentation on intermittent fasting.

Research shows that IF can be a useful TOOL for some people to control caloric intake, but shows no additional benefits over regular, continuous caloric restriction (e.g. a lower-calorie diet). There's really nothing magic about it, some people just find that they eat less calories overall if kept in a certain window of time.

There are also a few groups of people I would not recommend try IF...anyone with a history of disordered eating/ED, anyone actively growing (kids, pregnant women, etc.) and people with diabetes (particularly type 1).

I would talk to your doctor and ask for a referral to a registered dietitian if you have any health issues! A good one will work WITH you to figure out what works best for your lifestyle and goals, whether that is IF or not.



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Have found myself utterly bored with most food, tho craving sweets. Blood sugar out of control. I think it's time to try fasting. Gently, due to the diabetes, but a start.

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the holidays and entertaining can throw a wrench into the works, food is often our comfort when we are working hard, if fasting doesn't work for you now, it might somewhere up the road, eat healthy, get some movement and dont worry, be happy

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good article, we get into thinking we have to eat the american way, breakfast, lunch, then dinner. i have to cook for a mate so i take these into consideration but im finding that even one healthy meal in the late afternoon and maybe a cup of tea or coffee will get me through until the next day. thanks

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Thanks guys. I think I'm going to try a variation between Thanksgiving and Christmas and see how it goes. Part of the issue is my work schedule varies (I work 10-6 Mon +Wed, 8-4 Tu,Thu and Friday alternates), so finding an 8hr block that works is very tricky. I checked out a couple of e-books on this, including the one from Dr. Fung.

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Fasting offers health benefits well beyond weight loss. Even those at a healthy, maintained weight can practice intermittent fasting of 8:16 (where you consume all your meals within an 8 hour window and then eat nothing for 16).

I have been doing this for years now. There are other people who have done it for even longer. It's sustainable if you choose a schedule that works for you and you simply commit to doing it.

That doesn't mean you never, ever forever after eat anything other than this way, it means if you eat this way *most* of the time, you will still get the benefits.

In fact, 16:8 isn't necessarily the best for weight loss, depending on a variety of factors. Longer fasts are usually better for tapping into fat. But this schedule can help in maintaining weight loss, helps with blood sugar and insulin resistance, and in general fasting has been shown to improve longevity and other health markers.

There is also no specific time frame you must follow. Most people seem to push the 'skip breakfast' theme, but I do better without dinner. I eat breakfast around 6 am, eat lunch at noon. I may stop there, I may have a little nibble at 2. Then I don't eat again until breakfast.

It's easy for me to keep nicely occupied in the evenings, and some hot tea or sparkling water is enough even if I do feel a bit hungry at night.

Just pick the schedule that will work for you in your life. You aren't locked in, you aren't required to eat that way forever. You can switch up those 8 hours even between the week and weekend if that works for you, it's really a very simple system to follow and adapt as needed.

As has already been mentioned, Dr. Jason Fung uses fasting in his clinic to help weight loss, diabetes reversal, and more. He has written several books, but you can find a wide variety of info on his website without paying anything - he even flat out says if you are not feeling well for any reason, just eat something and try again later. Fasting can be done stupidly, but it absolutely can be done safely and effectively. idmprogram.com/1-rule-fasting/

I practice intermittent fasting and keto
Diet Doctor Dr. Jason Fung www.dietdoctor.com/authors/d
r-jason-fung-m-d

Intensive Dietary Management idmprogram.com/blog/
Guide to low carb eating www.dietdoctor.com/low-carb/
keto/visual-guides

About The Obesity Code www.bewell.com/blog/q-dr-jas
on-fung-book-obesity-code/

Keto Christina www.youtube.com/channel/UCqP
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If you need to eat w/ meds depends on several things which affect how long food remains in your stomach: how much you ate, what form it was in, and how long it has been. Since I eat dinner around 5:30pm; and don't take my nighttime meds until after 10pm... my stomach tells me (! sometimes painfullly) I need something.
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if i dont get this extra 50lbs off it will be the rest of my life :-(. i pace my meds, taking some right after i finish dinner and some even after 9pm, you still have food in your gut. controlling oneself is so hard, you just have to find a path. i sent for some spicepills that were supposed to help speed my metabolisn, nothing changed. now we have the holidays to deal with.....dont give up emoticon

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" do you do this for the rest of your life or is there a point where you stop- then what?"
THAT is the real question for finding a way of eating...! Look instead for habits that support your nutrition...and that you can totally DO THE REST OF YOUR LIFE! The alternative of doing something "only until..." is where yo-yo type 'dieting' comes from and many people get in trouble. Especially if they have chosen a plan that really doesn't work for them, their lifestyle, and they are only focusing on short term goals: weight xxx, A1C xxx, etc.

I'm certainly not saying you won't want to try something like 8 hr window etc. Some people thrive on it...some of us don't. In my particular case, I take some meds at bedtime, and I do much better when taken with food, so clock watching isn't going to work. Instead I look at what I'm eating, and portion control...and I try to keep in mind including extra veggies. Find what works for you---and that means giving yourself a few good weeks of it, and learning what is /is not right about it for you. All the best,
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i am an evening tv snacker, ive marked my snack bowl with a magic marker so i don't get into trouble eating from the bag. but instead of denying myself that necessary "crunch" ive started to quit eating at 9pm and not eat again till after 9am. my fasting blood sugars have improved and are more consistent. i guess i just do better with rules, it seems to work for me. losing weight requires more input beyond the fasting, tracking food and watching amounts but i think im on the "mend" emoticon

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There is no one size/solution fits all fix. Some people find this helpful, others find it frustrating. You can give it a go and see if it works for you but that is about it. If it's not totally for you do try and find one or two good pieces to take away from it to keep incorporating. Trying something new can get your out of your comfort zone and habits and find a new way to deal with or look at things, and a wider perspective isn't necessarily a bad thing.

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Search on "Dr. Jason Fung intermittent fasting".

Also, reddit has a board about intermittent fasting. Search on "reddit intermittent fasting".

Didn't find too many IF articles about endocrinology:

www.endocrineweb.com/news/diabetes/59292-i
ntermittent-fasting-harmful-someone-ty
pe-2-diabetes

www.naturalendocrinesolutions.com/articles
/intermittent-fasting-thyroid-health/


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Here's an article you might find helpful:

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On work days I eat breakfast at 7:30am, lunch at 11:45am and dinner at 4:30-5.

On weekends and days I’m not working I eat breakfast at 10-11am, lunch at 2-3pm and dinner at 6-7pm.

So that’s approximately a 8-9 hour window of eating everyday and I’ve been doing it for over 9 years. Totally sustainable for me.

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I eat mostly vegetables, fats, meats, some fruit and dark chocolate. Unprocessed and preservative free food. And it's changed my life!

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Has anyone tried Intermittent Fasting or the 8hr diet? My endocrinologist recommended them, but it seems weird (and she didn't have a good answer for the sustainability). When I googled, I found a bunch of doctors saying it's not helpful and no one is talking about long-term- like do you do this for the rest of your life or is there a point where you stop- then what?

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