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1/7/19 7:59 A

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Things that help me are to have a food plan. Make sure you always get in plenty of vegetables and fruit (set a rule to eat a minimum of x servings per day). Getting plenty nutrients helps diminish cravings.
If you make a plan, then stick to it and indeed see all other food as 'not for you'.



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1/6/19 7:22 A

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I am snacker. Available food tends to get eaten! When I worked it was a big problem. All our vendors would supply free donuts. Tracking helped, but not enough for me.

Now that I am retired I have much more control of my environment and am finally losing weight. (except during the holidays...)

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1/5/19 10:55 P

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I really liked the advice of @PAINTS5555 emoticon
Thanks for taking the time to "paint" the picture as well as your approach.

I gleaned some help from what you shared!
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12/30/18 3:38 A

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So, basically, bacteria, viruses, prions, and refined sugar. Got it. :D

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12/29/18 8:16 P

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Lol CED. The point is that we have the ability to exercise self-control over inanimate objects.

"For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever exercises faith in him shall not perish but have eternal life." John 3:16


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12/29/18 11:44 A

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i also have this bad habit...interesting

try hard to fill up on healthy stuff



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CED1106's Photo CED1106 Posts: 321
12/29/18 4:17 A

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> Does water or celery over-availability bother you?

It sure does! :D When I only need a stalk of celery for a recipe I have to buy a whole bunch! Everyone's welcome to my over-available celery in its wilted brown glory! :D

Edited by: CED1106 at: 12/29/2018 (15:17)
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12/28/18 1:56 A

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What I am taking away from this discussion is..........”It’s Not My Food” That is so much more empowering than “ I can’t have that”

.......For when I am weak then I am strong ( in Christ)


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12/1/18 11:20 P

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Does water or celery over-availability bother you?

"For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever exercises faith in him shall not perish but have eternal life." John 3:16


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12/1/18 9:38 A

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You need to find the root cause of why you overeat and deal with that. Then you'll be able to put strategies in place to help you resist the free food.

Edited by: LAWLI56 at: 12/1/2018 (09:39)
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11/30/18 11:22 A

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I used to have the same problem - once I started I almost couldn't stop. It was a compulsion. I usually had more control over not starting, so I did my best to remind myself that I was strongest when I hadn't given in at all.

The compulsion is partly hormonal, so it can feel nearly impossible to fight. I am lucky enough to work in a place where I can count on my co-workers to be supportive (instead of sabotaging me deliberately like *some* places I've worked). If you trust any of your co-workers, maybe ask them to help you.

Otherwise, keep hot tea or coffee, or sparkling water, or something you can sip on and feel like you aren't just denying yourself. Heavy cream can definitely help you feel satisfied with what you have and less likely to want something more.

All the best - this is a difficult time of year!

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11/30/18 3:03 A

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I am not sure anything about availability would be relevant. Because most people who overeat do so for emotional reasons, not environmental ones. You choose your own path regardless. And people that have unlimited food budgets don't necessarily eat well, nor are at ideal weights. It is not about what you have, it is what you choose!

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11/17/18 8:07 A

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‘Just because it is there doesn't mean you have to eat it.
Tell yourself it is not your food... and mean it.’

And

‘Have you ever been completely totally disappointed when something that looked *really good* turned out to be sort of bland, dry, and just didn't cut it?? If so, then the next time you look at a food offering that someone else has set in front of you--convince yourself that its going to be THAT disappointing!!’

And

‘So, all the food in the world, that is not on my plan is Not My Food.’

And

‘In American society, we typically eat until full, or at least avoid hunger. We also have a word for overeating, namely "stuffed", which is even used as a compliment to the taste of the food. Meanwhile, the Japanese have word, hara hachi bu, which approximately translates to "80% full".’


Great thoughts everyone!


I would like to add that I try and fill up on healthy foods at each meal and snack. Then when I’m offered or tempted by foods that are not going to help me achieve my goal of long term health, wellness and fitness I am much less likely to indulge in them.


Edited by: JUSTEATREALFOOD at: 11/17/2018 (08:07)
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I eat mostly vegetables, fats, meats, some fruit and dark chocolate. Unprocessed and preservative free food. And it's changed my life!

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Lowering my A1C and keeping my blood sugar levels steady eating LCHF.


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11/17/18 12:30 A

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wow, there are some very interesting points here to ponder...

we have always indulged and eaten for many different social reasons ~ when there was "free food" ~ food samples at the stores, treats at work... and also because of special occasions - treats during/after certain events, celebrations and feasts, gosh the reasons/list is long... and all that extra eating adds up...

it helped me to ponder - when and what is special to me, and that I could always buy or make more later if I wanted. even just deciding did not help me stop the social overeating... it is something I still practice. 1 thing that really helps me is to focus on the people - the real reason for most social events/occasions, and also to enjoy some of the food... then push the plate away, and have a yakfest! or back to work ;)

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11/14/18 2:47 P

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Many of our eating cues are external, such as the sight and sound of food, what time of the day it is (eg. lunchtime), and social situations (eg. going out with friends). We even train our children to eat from external cues, such as cleaning off their plates, eating with the family, and not eating snacks (ie. not attending to their internal hunger cues). Search on "external internal eating".

IMO, From an evolutionary standpoint, we're wired more for external cues (ie. food availability) than internals ones (ie. hunger), since, for most of evolution, us mammals were concerned about finding food to eat, rather than too much food available. But, today, with food readily available, this works against us. Additional external food triggers, such as boredom and stress, add to our difficulty with food.

In American society, we typically eat until full, or at least avoid hunger. We also have a word for overeating, namely "stuffed", which is even used as a compliment to the taste of the food. Meanwhile, the Japanese have word, hara hachi bu, which approximately translates to "80% full".
kind-eats.com/2014/04/22/hara-hachi-bu-eat
ing-until-youre-80-full/


So, at least be aware of and know external eating cues. You can also look up "intuitive eating", which goes a little further than this, although I think it's a reaction to "yesterday's diet", which focused on short-term results and guilt, rather than lifestyle change and enjoying some foods.
www.healthline.com/nutrition/quick-guide-i
ntuitive-eating#section3


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11/14/18 3:17 A

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I have a meal plan, and I put all the food I need and like on it.
I know I maintain my weight on this plan, that is, if I eat anything else I will gain.
So, all the food in the world, that is not on my plan is Not My Food.
Yes, it is easier to say than do, but with practice it becomes easier every week.

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-go on with the healthy lifestyle learned in weight loss phase
-just add healthy foods gradually to stop losing
-work out every day - 30-60 minutes is enough to maintain weight and good mood
-do not try to balance overeating by extreme workouts, it is not going to work
-avoid overeating, instead of satisfaction you get stronger cravings


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11/13/18 9:39 P

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When I was still working we'd occasionally get food brought in and depending on what it was I might have a small sliver. Over time I realized and remembered that most of it wasn't worth the calories.
The other thing that helps me is to really check in with my hunger. I always kept snacks at the office and if someone brought something I didn't want AND I wasn't hungry it was easier to avoid it. If I was hungry I could grab one of my snacks.

And then some days, I'd just enjoy the treat. For me it's all about balance.

Persistence is more important than perfection.

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11/13/18 1:48 P

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Have you ever been completely totally disappointed when something that looked *really good* turned out to be sort of bland, dry, and just didn't cut it?? If so, then the next time you look at a food offering that someone else has set in front of you--convince yourself that its going to be THAT disappointing!! And simply tell yourself,--out loud-- "ah, not today". When that moment happens it becomes So Empowering you will want to dance down the hall....! (I found it helped to look a the office food hanging around as "plastic decorations"---look nice, but not for eating.) Take a different path...and Empower Yourself!
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I think of every bite as a vote.

I want to vote for health. I want to vote for feeling good. I want to vote for looking good.

I think of every bite I don't overeat as a vote for weight management, for discipline, for being a grown up, for making smart choices.

I love living life at my goal weight and am proud to state that I'm at the target number for only the 3rd day in 2018. Nothing could taste as good as I feel today!!


My Keys to Success = Tracking! Super Foods! Step Up Cardio! And most important: Quit Quitting!!

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11/13/18 6:49 A

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I find tracking my food has stopped me in my tracks! It shocked me to see how many empty calories I was eating. And since changing my way of eating, I am feeling so much better. If it is a special event by all means have a small portion but other than that, just bypass it. You might notice others start to follow your lead!



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11/13/18 1:56 A

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Tony Robbins — 'Change happens when the pain of staying the same is greater than the pain of change.'

I thought this may be helpful. If the consequences of a habit are bad enough, we change it.

Edited by: MICHELLEXXXX at: 11/13/2018 (19:15)
"For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever exercises faith in him shall not perish but have eternal life." John 3:16


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11/12/18 10:59 P

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If you aren't hungry but you are eating then I would say that is your problem right there. I would look into emotional eating and go from there. Odds are that you don't stop to use every bathroom that you pass, get gas every time you see a gas station or adopt a pet every time you head into the pet store for food, so you need to figure things out and learn to apply that same discretion to the donut box in the breakroom at work.

I would also critically look at your claim of availability. Would you really eat cups and cups of brussels sprouts, green beans or onions or is this just mindless eating because you aren't paying attention or focusing on other people's schedules instead of your needs?

Is there a financial issue where you need to rely on outside food sources for a bit?If not why are you going back for food that you don't need? And I am not meaning to attack you by asking this, I am simply suggesting that you question your assumptions here. This is going to be an ongoing discussion as you figure out why and how to deal with it, so it's not an answer that you are writing in stone five minutes from now. It can and will evolve along with you.

I also think it pays to choose your wording carefully. It sounds like you consider eating things that you don't want or need or like to be a foregone conclusion so long as those things are available and that can become a self fulfilling prophecy. You are asking "How could I not?" and I am suggesting that you start to ask yourself "Why would I?" I mean, if you were at a bank while an armored car was transferring money would you be trying to hop in the vault or take the bags from the guards? Would you be asking yourself "How could you not?" because there was an opportunity right there or would you be asking yourself "why would i?" What is the difference between a bagel tray and an open vault door to you? Just because something is there does not mean you have to have it, particularly if it is not something readily unavailable. Skipping a donut today does not mean you have to choose no donut every again in your life. You can skip the donut today and have one tomorrow or the next day or only on Fridays or only on Mondays if you went on a long hike over the weekend or for birthdays or once a month or randomly. If your great grandma is making a batch and she is of an age where you might not get them again, have one. But beyond that most foods are pretty readily available and not exactly special occasion, only opportunity, must have, can't miss deals. If your office is like just about every other office there is a rotation of the same stuff, so it will magically appear in the breakroom again.

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11/12/18 6:43 P

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You need some third world dining then. Cook from scratch, work on spicing to various world cultures. You will loose your desire for the first world junk.

There is no bad food, only bad cooks.
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11/12/18 6:28 P

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Just because it is there doesn't mean you have to eat it.
Tell yourself it is not your food... and mean it.

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11/12/18 4:30 P

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This is / was a problem for me as well. I work for a food company so there is a lot of food around all the time - testing, tasting, and the treats that everyone brings in. Our corporate chefs are always making new recipes that we just have to try. Lots of food, available all the time and free. A bad combo.

For me, it came down to tracking it all. And realizing that for the most part, the food that seemed to be so tempting was exactly the stuff I shouldn't be eating. When I got really disciplined about tracking my food (before I ate it, not after!), it was easier to say no. For the most part, I just don't eat the treats since I would rather have a plateful of chicken and veggies than eat just 1 cookie.

When it finally sunk in that I can't exercise enough to make up for bad eating, my diet starting changing. If I am going to have a treat, it gets tracked and it better be worth the calories I'm "spending" to eat it. I'm a lot pickier now about what treats I will eat. And now I find myself having just a taste of something instead of a big piece. Ask for just a tiny sliver of the birthday cake instead of the big pieces they are serving. A spoonful of the ice cream instead of a scoop.

It took a long time and was a complete mindset change for me but worth it for my long term health.


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11/12/18 3:55 P

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Hello Sparkers,

I am facing a #firstworldproblem of too much food around me.

If it's in front of me I eat it, even if I don't like it that much. And especially if I do.

At my office there is always a lot of free food around, usually baked goods. I try not to even start, but always do. And once I start I keep going.

Have you overcome this?

Or do you just have some advice?

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