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NITEMAN3D's Photo NITEMAN3D Posts: 20,649
11/14/18 5:24 P

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It does seem that the entity that the article is written for or aimed at must have much to do with what that slant is. Once again I guess we're left to 'follow the money'? I agree with the observation about the studies themselves as well. Many of them use a random group to reach a conclusion when it should be a group like well disciplined Spark People whose diets are voluntarily controlled as per calories, at least. Then study the results of making that specific caloric intake come from predominately carbs (even break that down to good carbs/bad carbs), fats, or protein. Everything I've seen seems to have more variables than you would think science would allow? Anyway, I guess it's still good to keep up with the trends while bearing in mind that trends tend to change over time.

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11/14/18 3:32 P

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Oh, I see your point now. (:

I agree! I read some sort of low carb article where two different articles about the same study resulted in different opinions.

You also have to dig down into these nutritional studies as well! I follow a low carb diet, and have found out that researchers have *very* different ideas of what "low carb" mean, even some with 150g or more carbs per day, not mentioning which carbs were included in the study, and not conducting the study for a long period of time.

And, while we're getting better at questioning nutritional advice, we -- and our doctors -- still give out advice based on research made *decades* ago, research can be considered flawed now that better more recent research is available.

Edited by: CED1106 at: 11/14/2018 (15:32)
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NITEMAN3D's Photo NITEMAN3D Posts: 20,649
11/13/18 6:13 P

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Yeah, I agree that they were the same two studies and reached the same conclusions. I was just marveling over the ability of the two journalists to cast a different light on it with their headlines which is often what people base their opinion on. Seems we get to see a lot of that selective wording in headlines these days, huh? "Mostly disappoint" and "May Lower Heart Attack Risk" are coming from two distinct points of view... of course, that's just my point of view.

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Edited by: NITEMAN3D at: 11/13/2018 (18:16)
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11/13/18 4:21 P

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Sometimes you have to ignore the studies as it seems the next one will tell you just the opposite. Always check the sample size too. Really need a large varied group and not a short period of time.



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11/13/18 3:31 P

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I thought the conclusions were basically the same. And, I'm more than willing to take the 28% reduction!! "A secondary analysis showed taking fish oil lowered the risk of heart attack by about 28 percent, which is a "statistically significant" finding, says Dr. JoAnn Manson,"

As for the Vit D.... I have other reasons to take it. I was tested, and as I live in the NW, wear sunscreen, it wasn't surprising that I was low. It is tied in with the endocrine system via parathyroid hormone...and I believe studies have also linked it into prevention of depression etc. And, of course, Calcium usage within the body...!!

So I will keep taking my fish oil, Vit D (1000mg), and enjoy my salmon when its on sale!!
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NITEMAN3D's Photo NITEMAN3D Posts: 20,649
11/13/18 2:57 A

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Okay, I just spotted this. I guess it's all in the interpretation because I think their talking about the same two studies and the previous article I posted and this one certainly have different headlines and reach different conclusions:

www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2018/11/
10/666545527/vitamin-d-and-fish-oil-su
pplements-disappoint-in-long-awaited-s
tudy-results?utm_source=pocket&utm_med
ium=email&utm_campaign=pockethits


Another study quandary?

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NITEMAN3D's Photo NITEMAN3D Posts: 20,649
11/13/18 2:34 A

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I get my fish oil out of a supplement bottle, mostly. The real deal is getting too expensive in the form of salmon, I don't fancy trout because of the bones and the crap they sell for canned tuna these days ain't fit for my cat if I had one. What's called chunk light is actually pulverized most of the time. Why can't they come up with new grades of canned tuna like tuna powder, tuna flakes, followed by real actual chunk light and solid light, then just charge a little more for it? The chunk white and solid white are usually my choice these days but seem dry to me as compared to the darker 'light' tuna. Too many people and too few fish?

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11/12/18 1:23 P

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Ah, I miss trout fishing...for sweet cold water trout and salmon!! The time on a still lake early morning with the fog rising.... Ah,, another time and place in my Life!

But yes---eating those Omega 3's is great!! Hemp seed is one of my favorite sources, along with wild salmon. When salmon is on sale, I buy and freeze.
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11/12/18 12:29 A

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And Keep Fishing as well -- so long as those fish are omega-3 rich sardines! :D
https://wellnessmama.com/252465/sardines-benefits/

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NITEMAN3D's Photo NITEMAN3D Posts: 20,649
11/12/18 12:22 A

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These reinforce what I had seen previously:

www.upi.com/Health_News/2018/11/11/Fish-om
ega-3-may-lower-heart-attack-risk-stud
ies-find/5131541949590/


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