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Elaine - if you are careful with the amount and frequency you use your toiletries, do you think that they may last you until lockdown is finished? Are they ESSENTIAL toiletries? What would happen if you didn't have them?

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I am very thankful that my Mom keeps on cooking delicious food and baking bcoz she is so bored. She just steamed a whole lot of small fish yesterday. Looks like we'll be having laksa this weekend! Nyummm!

My Mom made orange muffins the other day. Just had one for bfast!

I am still going to dialysis 3 times a week. I hope the lockdown ends soon, I need to get some toiletries!

All 4 of us are going out of our minds with boredom. I have been watching a lot of documentaries to pass the time. Mainly Nat Geo Wild & Animal Planet. My parents keep on watching the news channels. Such upsetting news! I'd rather watch animals.

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I think I'm as prepared as I can be. I have work to do, plenty of food, I've even started a small garden. I did have a salesperson coming to my front door this morning. I felt bad for not answering but they entered my screened porch and came right up to the door. I felt sad for him being out trying to make a living right now but I just can't . . . .



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Governor Baker announced an hour ago that "shelter in place" would start in MA tomorrow at noon, March 24th.



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I have got enough non perishables.

Staying in the house and not going out unless it's necessary. Considering helping a small family owned restaurant.

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Well Wednesday the government facility where I worked told us to work from home until the end of March. Personally, I think there has been too many rumors going around speak of martial law. If people would just stay home and not socialize like they have been advised, this thing could be under control before too much longer. I don't mind working from home, because when my work shift is over at 3:00, i have enough daylight where I can work in my flower bed or just clean out my attic. I'm truly not worried because I put all of my trust and faith in God because he is ultimately in control of all of this.

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My son's Producer has a friend in LA who has the virus. He described it as feeling like ground up glass in his lungs.

NZ's cases jumped from 39 to 53 overnight. Until now, all the cases were the result of overseas travel, but now there are 2 with no link to overseas travel.

What annoys me is the very blasé attitude of some people with regard to keeping not only themselves safe, but others, too. And not only that, but they have openly stated on TV News interviews that they don't have any intention of following social distancing advice OR the direction from the Government that any visitors
to this country MUST self-isolate for 14 days on arrival in NZ. Some were put into enforced isolation and will be deported when their 14 days are up, because of it.

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I am not at all worried about the virus. The disease certainly sounds scary and the risks to the elderly and sick are real. However, if people would look at the actual NUMBERS --
1) The rate of infection vs. entire population is actually very small: some 250,000 cases out of a world population of over 3 billion, so about .000036%. Sure, that's going to grow as transmission spreads and new cases are diagnosed -- but statistically, you're not THAT likely to contract it.
2) MOST individuals -- about 85% -- recover completely, and many of them experience symptoms no worse than a really, really bad chest cold. Some people have NO symptoms at all.

What I am worried about is panic, widespread economic disruption (the stress of which may well cause some individuals to die of heart attacks, strokes, or suicide), the imposition of martial law, and erosion of our freedom. I am concerned that our already polarized society will use this epidemic to fan the flames of discord, causing governments to enact sweeping legislation that forever changes the character of our country. And I DON'T know how to prepare for that, short of having my bags packed, my horse trailer hitched up and ready to go, and an escape plan to head for my remote vacation cabin.

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I saw this on a news feed and wanted to share it



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On one of my teams we actually started a "STRUCTURE" thread where we're posting things we're going to accomplish for the day. I think it helps me to keep positive when I make myself think through my day, plan a couple of smallish goals, and post it for a little bit of group accountability.

My understanding is that we will all need to more or less shelter in place for AT LEAST four weeks. People who are just now going to hospitals were exposed potentially two weeks ago, so we'll always be a couple of weeks behind the crest of "the wave".

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A section, the major section, of my industry was shuttered yesterday. Until May.
I do, thankfully, have a medical referral clientele, so I can work with them on a case by case basis. Screening questions, extra precautions. Their call to have me continue to come as long as everyone is healthy. And my call based on my own health.
As an independent contractor, there’s no unemployment. Little help at all, really.

What I’m not good with is not having a job to get up and go to. Or any other tasks. Gym shut, workplace shut. Cannot see my partner, who lives separately.



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I doubt you'll be called back to school next week. Many seemed to be complying with the request to stay shut for a minimum of two weeks. I'll be WFH until March 31st.

News reports are hinting this could go longer. Have to wait and see if the curve flattens by the end of the month.

What we could do on this thread is swap recipes for keeping our meals interesting. I've been experimenting with warm potato salads this week. no mayo. made a balsamic vinagrette for dressing.

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I'm not sure exactly how long I can go without shopping but I'm probably going to find out. I'm a canner and have a large pantry so I always have a fair amount of food even though I haven't done as much canning/ the past couple of years b/c I've been working on a book. I might end up with some unusual meals and I'm sure I'll get tired of it. I have okra and tomatoes, jam, a freezer full of frozen veggies, burgers, chili, meat substitutes. I stocked up for a couple of weeks prior to things getting crazy so I have a lot of canned goods, beans, rice, potatoes, yams, onions. Bread making ingredients. Oatmeal and pancake mix. Planted some lettuce and herbs a few days ago. I'm worried about reporting to school next week (I'm high risk). I'll be glad to hunker down, edit my ms, and teach online. My doctor says I should post on here regularly for human contact and shelter in place until the worst is over. I hope everybody is keeping their chins up, lol.



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Soon, there will be plenty of paper goods since who will need to buy them with a year’s supply in the living room?

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I'm all about forgiveness; that said, I think the people who hoarded all the TP and paper towels really ought to share what they bought. Even ridiculous greed is forgivable with an apology and repentant behavior. JMO

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Excellent point! Even in isolation, I still have an active (virtual) social life!

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You know something that we have to be thankful for .... VERY thankful for?

Even if we have to self-isolate or go into lockdown, we are far better off than, say, WW 1 ... We have the internet to keep ourselves updated on what's happening; to communicate via emails; skype or video-messaging; to entertain ourselves. We have phones - we can still communicate with family and friends.

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Prepared for the virus? Yes. Prepared for the massive media spin followed by unreasonable panic? No.

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Went to nine stores to find toilet paper

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Our local (Pittsburgh) TV station has a "Yinzer" Storm Scale. You can see that milk and bread are on the low end of panic, eggs are right in the middle, TP is in the high range and beer - well, that's basically panic mode. I'd say we're just a hair below beer level right now.
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I'm not sure - its really hard to prepare for something that we really don't have any idea of what it can do in the long term.
If you mean for a week ahead, then Yes, we are covered.
If you mean for the length of it, then NO

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Yes, it's been a bit strange here - so far, milk, eggs, and bread are largely available. Which is good because I have two small children (2 and just turned 5), and the younger one is a very picky eater, but will eat eggs and drink milk, so we rely fairly heavily on those for his overall nutrition right now.

I already buy TP and other paper products in bulk, so I was stocked on TP, paper towels, and tissues. I don't really over-stock, and had in fact just canceled my monthly TP delivery because we had plenty. (We STILL have plenty for now - which is good, because it's not available!)

I have a client located in Malaysia, which just decided to order ALL businesses except shops selling food and other essentials to close through the end of the month. (Telework is fine, at least for those who can do their jobs that way - not sure what it will mean for the many who cannot.)

The folks in my firm's San Francisco office are coping with the restrictions there so far, but of course they are all relatively well off. Some of my pro bono work is with dealing with poverty law organizations in the Bay Area, and there is a lot of concern about how to help those in the "shelter in place" areas who were already barely hanging on. They can't afford to "stock up" - so they usually buy as needed, and thus shortages are going to hit them hardest. Particularly if there's also price-gouging - those who can afford to pay more barely notice, but those for whom every dollar counts end up suffering.

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During a blizzard, the items that fly off the shelves are eggs, bread and milk. So, that is the one thing that has astonished me about the run on the grocery stores during this pandemic. TP being such a hot commodity.

How many rolls do families use in a week ? Luckily, we haven't been asked to shelter in place like parts of San Francisco. If we were, we'd still be able to go out to buy groceries or necessities. I read that in an article this morning.


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Hopefully. We have a reasonable store of basics - I tend to buy in bulk, so didn't need to go searching for toilet paper. I'm more worried about the supply of fresh/perishable foods, but so far we've been able to find what we actually need, if not exactly our usual amount of choices.

It's been a mild winter, so we've actually harvested the last of the cabbages, spinach, and carrots from our backyard garden, and most of the lettuce is still going strong. All the herbs have rebounded in the mild weather. Starting to get our first blueberries as well. I also had a few tomato and pepper plants indoors under grow lights, so have a small harvest from those.

But I haven't had much time to do any spring planting yet - I have lots of seeds that will eventually be fresh produce, if I get around to planting them!

And we don't have cows, chickens, etc., (I live in the residential part of Washington, DC), so still depending on stores for milk, eggs, cheese, etc.

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Full disclosure. I'm one of those people who has a small bottle of hand sanitizer next to the sink. Hey, sometimes you want to save water. LOL

About two weeks ago before events started to escalate, employees were asking office services when they'd be receiving their next order of hand sanitizer. There were always bottles in the supply cabinets. none for weeks. They said every single supplier was back ordered. And that's pretty much when employees started swiping them from our cafe and other employee desks.

Last night, I donated blood to the Red Cross. Donating blood is another great way to help others during this pandemic.

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Watch moms in restaurants. They have kids use sanitizer rather than go wash up.

I have homes with dispensers on the wall. Sure, I washed my hands in their home a second ago, but mom insists that I use sanitizer, too.
Sanitizer is for when you cannot wash up.
And I’m betting slathering on lotion a bunch of people have handled negates the sanitizer.

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I'm stressed but prepared as much as I can be. I'm working from home and feel lucky I can do that. I've donated to my local food bank to help those who aren't as lucky as me.



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I'm not so sure about that. I know plenty of people who have hand sanitizer in their homes, NEXT TO THE SINK.
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I don't think
"people think sanitizing will take the place of hand washing"
The minute you leave your home, every handrail, door handle, shopping cart, etc,,,may be contaminated. People don't always have access to soap and water. And people who don't work behind a desk need hand sanitizers even more often.

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I work in healthcare. I have to buy my own supplies. I use gel alcohol to protect the kidlets from the rest of the world I’m in contact with.

Hoarders, people who think sanitizing will take the place of hand washing, and profiteers have wiped out supplies in my area.

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Canada closed the border.
It amazes me that the US hasn’t, taking 45’s opinion of the rest of the world in consideration.

I ask similar questions of my clients when I confirm appointments. In home massage therapy, people with special needs. And the studios, where I’m mainly seeing established clients.

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Malaysia is in a 2 week lockdown, starting tmrw! My parents have told me to stay home these 2 weeks. I'm not even allowed to go for my usual walks! Last night, I downloaded more youtube vids so I can exercise at home. I am eager to test out these latest ones I downloaded.

Sigh! My pedi appt has been postponed till April! My parents also told me not to go to the nearby cafe for meals. So, looks like I'm confined indoors for 2 weeks. I only can go to my dialysis treatments.

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Some people buy multiple bottles of hand sanitizers so that each family member has their own bottle for travel or work. Some people are buying lots of water because they are trying to follow the emergency guidelines of 1 gallon of water per person per day. If your family has to quarantine for 2 weeks, that's a lot of water. (personally, I have a Brita water filter that filters out 99% lead...but it is expensive). I bought 3 bottles of alcohol back in Jan, now rubbing alcohol is nowhere to be found in my area. I bought some aloe vera gel, mixed it with alcohol, and made some 'Purell' for a few friends.

People are in a frenzy because the handling of this pandemic is a disaster. Just look at what happened at the O'Hare airport....thousands of people returning from Europe in response to the presidents announcement....huddled closely together, for hours, awaiting their turn through customs. If they weren't exposed to the virus before, they probably were then. If we had adequate testing and factual reports, we would probably see an explosion of cases that could be associated to that fiasco.

Heaven help us.

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@WOUBBIE,

Rubbing alcohol is becoming difficult to find too.

I already have a bottle of rubbing alcohol, hydrogen peroxide, hand sanitizer, etc ... just as part of my normal household first aid kit.

What I hope is that the people who were buying multiples of TP, Purell and other supplies were also buying for elderly family members. Recently, the news articles have been hinting that older folks are going to be asked to stay home for their own safety. If they can't get out to shop, someone needs to shop for them.

I have cousins who flew back from a trip to Europe on Thursday. Don't know why the tour company didn't cancel, but that's a rant for a different thread. They made it home safe, but chose to self quarantine because they did catch a cold (jetlag, exhaustion, stress). Their son had to buy groceries for them and like others, had a hard time finding stuff.

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I was at the grocery store today and saw people buying several cases of water. I almost said out loud. This isn't cholera. The water supply should be fine.

Anyway gathering a small collection of non perishable items. I refuse to take all of it.

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Situations like this inevitably bring out both the worst AND the best in people.

If you're unable to find hand sanitizer, you can put regular rubbing alcohol in a small spritz bottle and lightly spray your hands. My mum got me in the habit of having a little bottle on hand in the bathroom when my kids were really little. Was really handy during cold and flu season when I couldn't keep up with sanitizing handles, doorknobs and seats.

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Today, I walked past a local Target and noticed what two customers carried as they walked out of the store, toilet paper. And not a 4 pack roll, but 12 or bigger pack roll.

As others have noted, most people are not being quarantined for 14 days. Most of us have been asked to minimize social contact by staying home. That doesn't mean we can't get out and go to the grocery store when needed.

@URBANREDNECK,

You'd be surprized how many hospital employees do go on ebay or Amazon looking for hand sanitizer or bacterial wipes. We automatically assume a hospital can get want it needs. But clearly from the various articles online, this isn't the case. They're scrambling like everyone else to find extra surgical masks, gloves and hand sanitizer.

Just to put things in perspective, where I work, several employees asked our company cafe to place hand santizer at the kiosks. The reply from our cafe ? "We did. Employees walked off with the bottles!"

I also saw this first hand. When I went into work last week, one of my coworkers said a bottle of hand sanitizer was taken from his desk. Everything else was there. but not the hand sanitizer.

What does that say when employees don't think twice about taking a bottle of someone else's hand sanitizer right off their desk ? This is not the zombie apocalypse.


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emoticon Dr. Eric Berg talks about coronavirus
www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vv6JinqtXSk

I think the media is causing everybody to panic and out buying more than they need. Things will calm down if we will all stay calm, stay informed but, quit obsessing over the news, which causes stress. Just keep your hands and everything else clean. Be safe and healthy.

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No one can be truly prepared for this.
Some can self isolate, some can't.
Food will run out of our cupboards and we will have to go to the store to get more and hope that there is something left on the shelf.
Time will tell.
For me, it's been a real eye opener. I've never seen this panic buying phenomena in person.
Keep your social distance, and do what the health authorities tell you (wash your hands, cover your mouth, etc)
If you can, start growing some veggies...
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I am one of those who lives paycheck to paycheck. I have a bit of a savings built but it took a long time and my part-time job at a local theater is temporarily on hiatus due to this madness. I can't afford to over stock my cupboards but I have enough to get by for a bit.

However, my TP supply is dwindling because of selfish, hoarding idiots. It's frustrating.

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This morning while I was feeding my cat, I wondered how many people would think to have a bit extra food on hand for their pets in case of quarantine.

My daughter works for a local charitable trust for mentally/physically disabled adults, most of whom wear nappies and some of those need to be thoroughly cleaned up a few times a day. I decided that rather than give a cash donation to be spent at the whim of the committee, (which is a bit tight fisted) I would buy them something useful. I managed to get 4 boxes of examination gloves which they use every time they have to change/clean up one of their clients, and a few boxes of tissues from a Medical Supplier (wholesale) - all the alcohol-based sanitizers were sold out as were their face-masks, however I wasn't going to buy the masks but they do use a lot of the sanitizers every day. I got the supplies a couple days later. That same day I had a look on theor site and they had NO gloves left, so I feel pleased that I have been able to help those in genuine need and not stock for myself out of greed.

I have to be careful, too, because I have asthma, and those with respiratory issues are more at risk of the serious effects.

I don't know whether to laugh at the brilliance of the advertising or cry at it's taking advantage of a globally serious situation
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"I've read a few articles about people who drove from store to store buying out Purell and Lysol wipes in order to make a profit on Amazon. And yes, Amazon and Ebay have both shut down anyone trying to sell a $3 bottle of Purell for $70.

There are hospitals and elder care facilities that don't have these items because there are idiots who thought that making a buck was more important than serving the public good. "

Well - hospitals and care facilities don't purchase their supplies from retail stores, so those purchasing from the retail stores are NOT having a negative impact on critical care supplies for institutions. What these people are doing is making things difficult and increasing risk for individuals who live independently, but are of limited means and ability to shop, and who may have physical issues preventing them from correctly using soap-and-water cleaning. There is no actual shortage of these items (the shelves might be temporarily barren, but manufacture and supply is not stopped or slowed yet). These are also not critical items for the vast majority of individuals (regular soap and water and scrubbing works just as well - or better - according to the experts), so it really isn't as if this practice is creating any real danger except to the wallets of folks who are willing to pay ridiculous prices for something that isn't necessary.

While I find the practice deplorable (just like all of the other snake-oil type sales), I do have to wonder just how many of these folks are ones who are recently unemployed due to the many closures / cancellations / quarantines / restrictions. There are a lot of folks who survive paycheque to paycheque, who don't have the resources to support themselves and their families, and who have just been put out of work with no idea of when / if jobs will become available again. It is hard to worry about the "public good" when your belly is empty and you don't have a roof over your head --- and there is an opportunity to legally (it' may not be ethical or moral - but it generally is legal) get some income for yourself.

As for myself - I am as prepared as I can be. My food and household supplies are always stocked for at least a month at home (including soap and laundry detergent and meds), and I have always been diligent about hand-washing. Since I am older and immunocompromised, I am definitely at high risk of having a serious or lethal case of this virus. I currently have a cold (thanks to a necessary visit to Urgent Care for an injury - and some idiot parents with uncontrolled young germ-mongers happily coughing / sneezing in our faces in the waiting room) and have been isolating for a week already - and am prepared for many more weeks if necessary.

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I've read a few articles about people who drove from store to store buying out Purell and Lysol wipes in order to make a profit on Amazon. And yes, Amazon and Ebay have both shut down anyone trying to sell a $3 bottle of Purell for $70.

There are hospitals and elder care facilities that don't have these items because there are idiots who thought that making a buck was more important than serving the public good.

Someone who does that, has no soul. How to redeem themselves ? Hey, how about donating what you have left to a hospital or elder care facility that really needs these items to take care of their patients and themselves.


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I still have one thing on my prep list and it's really on my husband's prep list. He hasn't renewed his albuterol prescription in several years, though he gets really bad respiratory infections every time he has a cold and should always have an inhaler available. I've been nagging him to call his doctor to have a fresh prescription called in, and he's dragging his feet.

He did check all his other scrips and he's got a 30 day+ supply of them, so there's that at least. And we have all the OTC meds to help 3 people get over a normal bad cold.

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JERF: I have heard similar stories. It's positively vile.

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I feel so bad for people that didn’t have any extra at home and really need some.

I read an article about a Canadian couple that were buying Costco stores out of items like Lysol wipes and reselling them on Amazon (Amazon has shut them down now), at a huge mark up and they were making a ton of money. Disgusting.



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I am sick of people hoarding toilet paper.

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I've always got enough for 2-3 months on hand. Some cooked and in single serves in the freezer, some raw in the freezer, plenty of dried stuff like pasta, various types of rice, buckwheat, quinoa, chia, millet, dried fruits, nuts, and a variety of canned products such as protein, fruit/veggies/beans. I use UHT Soy Milk and have plenty on hand, too. I also have a some Swiss Chard and Parsley in the garden that is doing o.k. still, and my feijoas and guavas are soon coming into being ripe and I have heaps of bananas on my banana plant.

I always have at least a month's worth of loo paper on hand and plenty of soap products on hand, too.

I've always practiced this because it is no dearer than running on empty cupboards, and in fact it works out cheaper because I stock up on specials, so don't have to buy much else, and I also don't have to make special trips to the supermarket (town is 9 miles away.) I also live in an area where the road into town gets flooded on occasion and we also have power outages more often than I would like, so I also have a little camp burner with a couple gas containers on hand, too. It has also been a God-save for when the money has been really tight.

I also live by myself and only go out once a week to the Supermarket, so my risks are reduced.

Our Prime Minister (Jacinda Adern) has just announced that anybody coming into New Zealand will have to self-isolate for 14 days, and no cruise ships are allowed until June 30th. Cargo ships are still allowed, tho'! We only have 6 confirmed cases and all have come from overseas.

I agree with you, JERF - I was gobsmacked when I saw how casual Trump was shaking everybody's hands at the press conference. He used to be a germaphobe.

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