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12/30/14 12:29 A

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I did four months straight of the Skogg System and during that time did their 60-day challenge. I went from level two to level three quickly and just upped my weight during the process. I never made it to warrior because I was working out with a partner who didn't want to go to level 4. I made tremendous gains by upping my KB during the process. I don't know what their answer would be, but I kind of just did my own thing and it worked beautifully!

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12/7/14 9:25 A

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Bump.
I've just started using the Skogg system again after doing a couple of rounds of Rushfit. Feels good. I've always been a little fuzzy on the couple different level programs for Skogg's DVDs. There's one for length of workout and another level for heaviness of weight. Are you supposed to progress through the workout levels with one size kettlebell and then increase the weight after you reach level 4?

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11/11/13 12:07 P

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The Skogg DVDs come with a poster with the entire 12 week program. Since that's proprietary information I'm hesitant to share it in a public forum. If you have bought the DVD set and your schedule was destroyed in some way, then I'd be willing to private message you the schedule.

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Does anyone by any chance have a copy of the Skogg System Calendar?

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4/7/12 4:54 P

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The next Skogg System 60-day challenge starts April 24th! Visit their website for more details and to sign up!

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1/24/12 8:40 A

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The Skogg system is a really good dvd and you will get a great workout! He has really good form and I love how they shoot from different angles and in slow motion so you get a chance to see how the moves are done, especially the snatches. Michael Skoggs has great form and the other guy in his dvd does too. With that said, the female doesn't have great form when it comes to swings. It appears she is standing with her legs to far apart and not swinging properly. I have a couple of Lauren Brooks dvd's and I think she has great form which is how I tailor all my workouts based on her form. You can youtube her and check out her form. I love the Skogg system and I just started week 3. Unfortunately I am addicted to weighing myself and I noticed the first week I dropped 4lbs. and week 2 I stayed the same but noticed more upper body definition so I am trying to convince myself it is okay because muscles weigh more but take up less space than fat. I was wondering if anyone else is tracking their weight and if they have noticed any changes. I would love to hear from others and what week they are in and how they are doing.

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1/20/12 1:01 A

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Nice!!! You can take the workout with you!
I exercise at home exclusively, so am worried about hurling these at my precious TV hanhaa.
I wear weight lifting gloves when doing these to help keep my sweating hands from losing grip.

Thanks again for the explanation of the levels. I see what you mean now. I like dirty sweaty workouts normally, so glad to hear it truly is intense as you go!

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1/20/12 12:39 A

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The dvds are setup so you would have to switch them out to change from one type to another. And the only reason for combining a 1 and a 4 is to use the 1 level as a low weight warmup. But, each dvd has a no weight warm up on it and a cool down stretch section. A level 4 workout is intense and long enough that you won't want to combine it with other things. Once you are doing level 4s you can change out exercises or start moving up in weight.

Since I already know the exercises I just programmed the workouts into my iPod touch and take it to the gym. I don't have a place at home to swing and wouldn't want to swing a 35 pounder on wood floors.

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1/19/12 11:30 P

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Awesome explanation guys. I just want to be really sure this is good because of the high cost. So, want programs I will reach for often to make it pay for itself.

Glad to hear it has the levels. I will try them all....and guess you can also combine levels. Like as a workout do level 1 and maybe paired with level 4...does it let you do that or do you have to just choose it and play them back to back manually? Think that would work. It's similar to how Biggest Loser DVD's and Jillian DVD's are set up....levels that you progress through.

HAHA about the feet.....BUT it feels like you are protecting them hahahaha.

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1/19/12 7:30 P

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The Skogg System has 4 workout types and each type has 4 levels. All of these use the same 6 exercises, but combine them indiffering ways: Swings, Cleans, Press, High Pull, Squat, and Snatch.

Roots only uses one exercise at a time and the length of exercise periods lengthens.

Intervals uses pairings and the number of time you repeat the work/rest periods progresses

Ladders focuses on performing laddered sets of reps

Flow is a ladder, but focuses on one side of the body then the other rather than alternating between right and left during every exercise.

Workouts start out around 10min plus warmup and cool down, but will last around 40min by the 4th level.

Regarding working barefoot, tennis shoes aren't much protection from a falling steel ball either.

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1/19/12 4:37 P

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Yes, Roots is part of the Skogg System. It has 5 DVDs. Depending on how you think about it, Roots is the first DVD in their program, but technically the 2nd because the instructional DVD is the first. Each DVD has 4 different levels of workouts on the disk. Once you get it I think you'll like it. There are 6 exercises, and I did 60 seconds of each with a 60 second rest in between sets. That was for pure beginners.

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1/19/12 3:04 P

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I am doing Pump Les Mills and am on week 3, but as a second workout am doing Amy Bento's KB Dynamics, but want to supplement with Skogg too. So, waiting to get that set in. Pump is not quite tough enough for me, so adding KB's works great on those ST days.

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1/19/12 3:02 P

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Thanks for the info. On barefoot. IT scares me LOL. I do that with the Amy Bento and Paul Katami DVD's, but have images of smashing my feet and my TV!

I need heavier KB's...thinking 2 more. I have 10 and 15lb. So will be fine for a while with the 26 and 35. Can't have too many due to space in a small condo.

Is the Roots DVD part of the Skogg System? How long are the workouts in that system?

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1/18/12 8:35 P

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Did the Roots DVD today, beginner level. Very non-intimidating. Great instructions. I think I'm going to be very happy with this system.

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1/18/12 2:48 A

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The main idea behind kettlebells is increased strength through full body utilization. If you do press from the clean/rack position and your off hand is limp or your glutes aren't squeezed tgen you're arm is working harder on its lonesome. But, if the more muscles you can flex simultaneously the more over all intesity of output your body can do. If you use toe shoes or go bare foot it's easier to dig your toes in, flex your arches and strengthen your feet and develop the whole muscular system rather than just certain parts. Michael Skogg calls it the short foot method because when you do it right you arch lifts off the ground and pulls the vall of your foot closer to your heel.

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1/17/12 10:27 P

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OHHHH I am missing it, BOO! Don't have my system yet. Good for you.
Glad your knee is better!

So, here is a question...BTW, I rehauled my page. I do this annually, lol.

SOOO.....why oh why are these KB programs all done barefoot?

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1/17/12 8:51 P

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Well since I started this thread a while ago, guess I should update it. I purchased the Skogg System as a birthday gift to myself a few weeks ago when I finally got the clearance to workout again after a knee injury. The newest 60-day challenge started today and I definitely signed up for it. Will keep you posted on my progress!

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Okay, that answers my questions. Think then I will start with Skogg and go from there. Excited about this because it is so different from what I normally do.

Thanks!!!

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1/16/12 2:44 A

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If you just want instructional and no workout dvds then start with Enter The Kettlebell from Dragondoor.com.

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1/16/12 2:42 A

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I think Skogg will give you a better foundation and familiarity with using the kettlebell in timed and ladder sets. Then you could look at dragondoor.com for materials for focusing on certain types of training or something like "More Russian Kettlebell Challenges" for learning some new exercises.

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1/15/12 10:53 P

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Awesome information!!! I do lots of deadlifts and heavy over 110lbs, so great!!
New to KB's though, so definitely agree to start relatively lower to get form, etc.
I have 10 & 15 already because of a few DVD's with Amy Bento and Paul Katami I have been doing sporadically. But, have gotten interested in moving into a whole 8-12 week system for a change.

Like your recommendation of getting the russian increments...makes sense!! So would need maybe 2 more for now and then move up later.

I definitely think for now up to 40lbs would be great and will hold me over for a while, so will look for some in the increments you mentioned for fit male and fit female. I lift pretty heavy, so think 26lbs to 40lbs in there will work great...probably my 15lb one I have already anf then 26lbs one I can get and then move from there.

So...between Skogg and RKS...you say Skogg, right? They aren't cheap systems...but have read some say Skogg others say RKS because it has more routines...just double checking.

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1/15/12 1:11 A

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Michael Skogg developed his system based on his experience as a Navy SEAL, physical therapist, and former MMA team owner. Once you get to level 4 then it's up to you to start varying exercises to keep things interesting, but the format of his workouts are very versatile.

I recommend going with the Russian increments of 4kg increments starting at 8kg/17lbs. This greatly cuts the number of weights you need to get and keeps the focus on using the whole body, endurance, and technique, rather than brute strength. The rule I go by for people starting with kettlebells is: average male - 12kg/26lbs, fit male - 16kg/35lbs, average female - 8kg/17lbs, fit female - 12kg/26lbs. There are of course exceptions, but because of the combination of aerobic and weight endurance, plus learning new techniques, it's better to go low. I think a snatched a 28kg/63 a few times, but I moved up from 35 to 44 to 53 in 6 or 7 months so having all the smaller weights isn't a good use of your money. Better to get 2 of the 8kg and 12kg to do double swings, snatches, etc. once you start swinging 16kg and 20kg in one hand.

If you're using the traditional kettlebell exercises then you'll almost never isolate a single muscle group. If you get the Skogg system and the RKC Enter The Kettlbell DVD you'll see pretty much the same techniques and if you haven't done a lot of deadlifting then be prepared for some lower back soreness, but once that passes it will almost never be an issue again.

Hope this helps, welcome to the world of kettlebells

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1/15/12 12:01 A

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Thanks for your input. I am new to KB's but not to hard workouts or heavy lifting. So, if you think Skogg is appropriate for various levels, I will be checking your recommendations. Was worried Skogg might not have proper form. Every set of reviews for Kettlebell DVD systems have one or two negative comments on form, so looking for the least likely way to be injured lol.

I have a 10 and 15 and want to get a 20, 25, 30, 40. But space is an issue. Read adjustable kettbellls are no good either. Not sure I want to go heavier with the way you have to swing these. Lighter will be good for a while and can just consider it more " circuit" training in that sense that it would be aerobic with higher reps.

I am finishing up a third round of P90x and BB Pump Les Mills, so will be ready for something totally different for a few weeks to mix in with a round of Supreme90 in March. I am really liking kettlebells and it would offer something other than dumbbells, barbells and pull ups for a while. Nice to switch it up.

Thanks again for your input!!


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1/14/12 5:47 P

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I recommend anything from dragondoor.com, skoggsystem.com, or through crossfit.com.

I started out using a couple of the RKC DVDs for initial instruction before, but they are very militant and not always the best for people just starting their fitter life style changes. However they do offer a wide variety of workout DVDs based on your gender, age, and fitness goals.

The Skogg System DVDs have 1 instructional disc and 4 workouts designed to challenge men and women of all ages, just pick a KB weight that's appropriate for you. Each workout has 4 levels of difficulty and focus on the 6 core KB exercises: swing, clean, clean and press, hi-pull, squat, and snatch. There is also an included poster with a 12 week program for working up to level 4 workouts and the opposite side has visual references for how to do the exercises.

As someone who used to, and will again, swing 44lbs regularly, building your endurance on these six exercises is a good way to go. Once I've completed the 4th level for all 4 routines I'll start integrating some alternative exercises, using more weight in the form of a larger KB or using 2 at a time, or changing the mix of exercises to improve snatching or swinging endurance.

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I have a couple of KB DVD's, so totally new and like what I have done so far. I am interested in this system or the other KBS RKS or whatever it is called. Another system out there with 16 routines..between the two, which one is the one to use?

Any advice and no, not going to a gym...so has to be at home DVD training...between the two which one gives safer routines and effective strength and cardio routines?

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1/12/12 2:01 P

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I just started level 2 and was surprised how much it pushed me since i was already doing level 1 routines back to back. Looking forward to finishing the series and being able to start building my own workouts again.

I'll take a pic and record my weight today and again when I finish the program.

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1/12/12 11:13 A

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I just purchased the Skogg System and I love it! You will see your body transform right before your eyes and will notice how much stronger and leaner you are becoming. I actually took pictures the day I started and will wait for about 2 mos. and take more pictures to really see the changes. I can't wait but I can tell you I do feel a difference. I started with level one interval and realized it was a little too easy for me since I have been doing kb's for a little over a year. Well, let's just say level 2 is very intense and I can't even imagine anything beyond level 2! I will let you know how it goes

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Thanks for this great thread. Can't wait to check this out.

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I have the DVD set. It is EXCELLENT. You may think you know all there is about KB, but I assure you, you will learn more about technique from this system. Serious KB training! This blows the Iron Core series away.

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9/8/11 1:51 P

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The Skoggs used to have a gym in Tigard, OR that I attended. I loved their system enough to get certified as an instructor before moving away from the area. The DVDs weren't available at the time.
Their Portland gym is doing great and I can't wait to get a set of the DVDs for myself. His system promotes everything I love about Kettlebells without being overly macho like the RKF tends to be.

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9/8/11 10:12 A

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Has anyone tried the Skogg System for kettlebell workouts? I came across this site while I was looking for new workouts and it looks interesting, but I hadn't seen anyone on here talking about it. Just wondering what someone else thought and if it's worth the money. Thinking about purchasing it and doing the 60-day challenge that starts September 20.

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