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Worms a a pest no matter what animal you have. I remember years ago seeing Barbers Pole worms in one of our dairy goats. They were exactly the same as a barbers pole. You really need to keep on top of them that's for sure.

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Oh my, worms. One of my hounds had the worst case of hookworm in the universe when I adopted her. Stifled her appetite, made her lethargic. Took three rounds of treatment to cure, and my vet said she'd never had that occur in her career.



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Glad you did JD, this is a great team and we talk about all sorts of things not just animals.

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Thanks flowerdalejewel. I was actually looking for a team not related to animals at all and this poped up in my search. Since I got my pup from a kill shelter I decided I had to join :)

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Tapeworms are really gross and they can infect humans with terrible consequences

I'd definitely go with the animal hospital, they sound like they know what they are doing and care about your animal.

I'm always grateful for my vet, they are really up to date and they will always give you alternatives if you can't afford things. I just found out that my vet is the first accredited animal rehabilitation vet in Australia. So glad to know this as they treated Maggs when she had spinal surgery.

Vets are like doctors, there are really good ones out there but there are some real stinkers as well.

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I have only had my puppy a month and a half. (she will be 7 months on 11/8/12 ) Since I rescued/adopted her I found out she had mites after that cleared up she got sick. Our vet didnt take late walk ins so they referred us to a pet hospital who are awesome! They ran tests but without blood test and and xrays they couldnt figure out what was wrong, I didnt have the money for blood test and xrays. So they treated the symptoms, and hydrated her, gave me a week of meds and she was feeling better.

on 10/17 she was due for a shot so i took her back to her origional vet cause they were only going to charge me foor the shot. Nothing was wrong with my pup but after her shot they said she needed another med. to make sure her skin was healing up. (cause of the mites she had) After i left i was pretty angry cause her skin was healing up great, I felt like they were just trying to get more money!

on 10/31/12 I took my pup back to the animal hospital ( the place the regular vet recomended) cause she had worm like things in her poop. come to find out my pup has tape worms! They gave me a one time oral med, While there I had her tested for heart worms to be safe and have another mite test cause sometimes she is still itchy. Everything came back clear except for the tapeworms.

From now on I am just going to take her to the animal hospital cause they spend more time with your animal, and dont over medicate them either.

I might take her back when I get paid. She took her tapeworm med on wednesday night and this morning I saw more "sacks" on the floor. I thought they were suppost to come out dead in her poop.

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Kasey, prices like that would send you broke if you had any serious problems. Obviously they are not in it to help the animals but to make a buck or ten.

I remember when we had farm animals we had to know about all sorts of diseases and problems, after a while I swear we saw just about every disease in the Blacks Veterinary Dictionary.

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in recent months since i cannot drive that well anymore - i have used the phone a lot - of course the first remark made on the line is 'you really should bring her in' -
i am not looking to take their time for free - and i have had the same vet for all these years with all my little guys -
like last month- my little PENNY ;caught her rear leg on something and 90% of her nail was hanging. i disinfected bathed and dried and applied a little antibiotic = covered it with gauze.
it bled only a little. i called to ask if there was anything else i should do - they said i had it covered pretty well but if anything happened to let them know.
three days later she lost the entire nail - a new one is growing in.
i donate a lot of stuff to my vet - and i will do a little something more as a thank you for all that verbal help and advice.





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None of the small animal vets in our area will make house calls, not one. Our large animal vet (for our cows and horses) will not do small animals on the farm. We would have to take them to their clinic, and that is an hour and 25 minutes away! When we were first married, many years ago, there were five vets in our area and all of them did all animals, and three of them would make house calls for pets. But with the demise of the dairies (there are three now where there used to be over thirty!) the old vets have retired and the new vets are strictly small animal. We try to keep our animals as healthy as possible, since vet care for the cattle often involves waiting four to six hours for the vet, because he follows a daily route and we are at the farthest end. If we call before 8am, it's $75, before noon, it's $125, and after noon it's $175, just to have the vet pull into the yard. A typical vet call for a cow usually runs $700 to $800, per day of treatment.

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Our two vets are @ 35 minutes in either direction, but in an emergency they will come up to our place.

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Thanks. She was kind of stuck, because she had already arranged for the days off, and she didn't want to p**s them off before they cut into her pup, but she is talking about finding another vet. Unfortunately, there aren't many in our rural area, but she is looking and asking for referrals from friends. The vet I use now is almost an hour from her, but may end up being her choice.

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Well that's wrong. Most definitely they should have honoured the quoted price. I hope your daughter told them that would be the last time she'd go there. I think I'd make an effort to find another vet. What a bum!!!

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I agree that we will do and pay almost anything to protect our furbabies, but sometimes some vets take advantage of our love. My daughter adopted a puppy, and six weeks ago, she set up the appointment to have her spayed. She needed to lock in the date, because she was taking two days off from work to be home with her. Monday when she took the puppy in for her appointment, the price had gone up by $65!! I think they should have honored the price that was quoted when she made the appointment. But it was take it or leave it, so she had to pay the extra. Gr-r-r-r!

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If you can afford it there isn't anything we won't do for our furbabies.

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In our city, we have several 24-hour emergency vet clinics. My vet's voicemail gives the emergency clinic's phone number... I have used them a few times and they are pricey; however, when you have an emergency with your babies, at least they get care!

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Those coyotes must be mean buggers. Thank goodness we don't have anything like that here in Australia!!

My last emergency was with my little Maggs in March this year. One minute she was running around and the next she was paralysed and not able to move her back legs. We raced her down to our local vet (who thankfully if very smart) he started her on steroids straight away to try and reduce the swelling on the spine, but with there being no improvement the next day we had to take her into the city @85kms away and she was operated that night to remove the disc that had herniated and was pressing on her spine.

She's a feisty little dog who is nearly 14 and after a couple of days she was trying to walk. Since then with acupuncture, laser therapy and rehab she now runs around the yard with the other dogs as if it never happened.

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We had to change vets a couple years ago. We had an emergency 10 minutes after the office of five vets closed, and we tried every number on the answering service, for 45 minutes, with no reply. We finally reached another vet, and his service answered and told us to come right down, that the vet would come right back in, and he did. Our dog had lost an eye and had a badly torn ear and throat after fighting a coyote that had killed a newborn calf. She had surgery and spent five days at the vet's, and a long recovery, but she is doing fine now. This was our first actual pet emergency, but it was a doozy, and to not be able to reach any of the five vets for help for our heroic dog was the last straw.

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You were very lucky, some animals come with some horrifying problems


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I was so naive when we adopted our Auzzie. He came from the Border Collie Rescue, but originally was from a puppy mill bust in Washington State. He had to spend 3 months in foster care prior to being adoptable. He was unsocialized, not house broken and even after 3 months, afraid of the world. His age was placed at between 3 and 5.. We've had him for 8.5 years now and he's a really good dog. I lucked out!!! Will I ever adopt another with a puppy mill background... a big NO.. Even the vet said we were lucky as most have health problems.. his only problem has been his teeth.

It took us 5 years to really get him to be happy and trustworthy of the world around him. We were able to housebreak him fast though. We have a huge chainlink fenced area right off our back door and I left the door open so he could come and go and watched him like a hawk and was quick with the praise and it worked.

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I love my vet. She almost never sells me the meds, being quite open that I can obtain them at a lower price either online or from my compounding pharmacy. The only time I get meds directly from her is if I need a small starter amount until I can get the prescription filled.

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Some of the problems with rescuing "puppy farm" animals and others is that you really don't know what their problems will be unless you wait 'till they "grow up"

Some problems aren't prevalent to the naked eye (even to vets) and when you find out about them you've already lost your heart.

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"I think that some animals (as with people) have a predisposition for health problems."

You can say that again, LOL. If people really did their research and picked a breed that is not overbred they could avoid easily 70% of the cost of pet ownership.

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Our costs for adopting are pretty reasonable over here in Australia, usually @ $130 to $150.

I think that some animals (as with people) have a predisposition for health problems. Some dogs tend to have bad teeth no matter what you do. I inspect our pups and cat for teeth problems, but I haven't had a problem with my pets that I have now. My Lady and Tramp that I had previously had all sorts of problems, no matter what I did.

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We got our last 2 from the BC Border Collie Rescue and paid $250 each for them. We had to have a home inspection and a fenced yard. We also had to bring one of our previous dogs to meet the new dog at it's foster home. They also will take back dogs that people can't keep for whatever reason. I so agree, some of the smaller organizations are really good.

My vet here in Canada has a basic dental charge of $500.. extractions are extra. I've been getting pretty good with the teeth brushing!!

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Wow, I'm paying about 200-250 for a dental (extractions on top of that). Feeding raw food helps to keep teeth clean.
Concerning rescue: I've done that. I highly recommend passing on the cost. If people don't have to pay much for an animal they often are not ready to pay for the cost of taking care of them, either. I would not place any animal for adoption for less than $200.00 and much more for puppies. You can always lower the price for people who are truly deserving and low income.
Private rescue groups often do a better job than shelters in helping people to find the right dog and play a similar role in the life of a dog owner that a good breeder does: being a resource for that family for the rest of the dog's life and taking the dog back if the owner is ever unable to keep it. At least that's what I do. Therefore a higher price is justified.

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Oh how I agree about the high cost of vet care!!!! It makes adopting animals difficult for many and harder for those organizations that look after the animals to get them adopted out.

I have learned how to brush my dogs teeth the best I can as I've already spent hundreds on dental care over the years. Our little jack had awful teeth problems and we had them cleaned professionally twice.. last cleaning was over $700!! Our Auzzies cost around $500 and it was his 2nd cleaning. They let me brush them now, but always wait for their special "dog sausage" treat!!

It even costs alot to have an animal put down.. I could go on and on, but we all accept that this is the price we have to pay for animal ownership. It's really a shame!

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When my pet is in dire straits and is having major problems I'm not in a position to argue with a vet on what is needed. I think most of us can see a "gouge" when it happens.

I'm happy with my vet, he does everything at his practice and the prices are for the most part reasonable. My vet says, at least here, there are pockets of heart worm infestation, my area is not one of them, they aren't outside dogs so I'm not introducing a medication that is not required. Vets are like doctors, we all hate to pay large bills but sometimes it's better to be safe than sorry.

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Some vets make very little money from consultations but lots of money from dispensing meds, which is why many don't like people to use online pharmacies. Some online pharmacies are not good so stay with well-known companies. I have had good luck with KV Vet supplies and Omaha Vaccine, both sell to pet owners but ask about minimum orders and shipping fees.
As far as unnecessary procedures, I don't find it as bad as in human medicine, but still, you have to do your research and ask a lot of questions or you will pay for more expensive options. I used to have a dog that had an inner ear infection that could have been treated with antibiotics, but because of the similarity of the symptoms it could also have been a brain tumor. They did an MRI which was negative for over $1000.00 when a trial of antibiotics ended up saving him later. Ever since I get second opinions and do my own research.
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Have to say that my vet has been pretty good. I do have to get the insulin for Ms Molly from him but he sent me to CVS to get the needles since they would be so much cheaper. Also, when PolyDactyl needs an injection when her allergies kick in, he doesn't charge me for an office visit - just the injection.

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Our vet knows our financial stress! so he has been pretty good,not pushing on us what we can get at tractor supply, and other places. Someone I know told me about her vet and the prices were ridiciously low which made me think-why????????

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God bless my vet - Cannot say anything bad about his fees - although both my daughters have had horrible experience with their vets - shame on them -

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Sadly, I agree with you. I have opted out the the heart worm testing and medication because of the cost AND mine never venture out other then the potty run.

I would like to add to that every single time we go to the vet, we come home with antibiotics. That adds another $75 or more to my bill. Not usually sure why they prescribe them most of the time other then the added cost.

I did find a vet that told me I can give the dog Gas-X when her pancreatitis looks like its flaring up. That alone saves me hundreds a year alone but my vet was not happy but after looking, it is exactly the same thing he was giving me for her.

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hi - i love my vet - she has been the vet for all my animals for years. but recently i question the 'closed ranks ' when it comes to being more understanding of their costs.
i spoke to my eye specialist who told me that OTC products like Sistane for my pugs eyes is perfectly acceptable. at a fraction of the cost of Rx from the vet i was delighted.
but it poses that question - why the vet feels the need to push those expensive meds.
same for heart worm - in 90 % of the pets households - they don't leave the home - or their own property- unless your dog goes to farms, hunting, woods, etc - it is very very unlikely. the same for the west nile virus - many horses are also given meds for very unlikely scenarios.
we all love our pets - they are family - but i think the vets have really played on this to the tune of millions of dollars.
when i was a kid - we all had a dog- my cousins etc. my mom and aunts fed them good home cooked food the same as they served us. i realize today we know a little more about 'balanced nutrition' - but all of those pets WITHOUT EXCEPTION - lived many years - and i don't ever recall a vet even being in the picture.
when i questioned my vet about some of the meds on line- you could just see the defenses coming up - oh no don't buy them - they are not the same quality, who knows how they were delivered or stored - etc etc - this is nonsense as i have many friends who have had the blessing of their vet and a script written so they could order it for the animal.
one of my neighbors rescues from the islands -Aruba in particular - she has 3 herself - when they came to her you would not believe the terrible shape they were in. yes she has had to spend a lot of money at the vet - but she cooks meals, buys many homeopathic remedies on line - all with the blessings of her vet clinic - they are all doing fantastic five years later.
the vets have a niche market - and they have a profession we don't know too much about copying - but over the past two years - since i am on fixed budget - i have applied common sense to my animals the same as i would to my children.
if i really feel in the dark i do not endanger my sweeties - i do take them - but i have averted many trips over the last few months -
the vets have to stop charging the way they do- or THEY WILL BE THE ONES endangering the very pet population they swear to help - because people who cannot afford it will not go at all.




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