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Let’s tackle the fours now; Major Arcana 4s ~ 4 The Emperor and 14 Temperance, and the Minor Arcana 4's ~ 4 of Wands/fire, 4 of Pentacles/earth, 4 of Swords/air, and 4 of Cups/water.

All the fours, including the major and minor arcana, will all have a core meaning that will assist you in remembering the 6-Four cards by knowing what the number 4 means. According to Keen.com (http://www.keen.com/articles/tarot/number
-4-cards-of-the-tarot) in which Keen says: "This is the number of stability and consistency."

So now you know the basics for the major arcana the 4 ~ The Emperor rule of others and territory and 14 ~ Temperance rule over self. For further delineation you can add to these two from the pictures on the cards.

Also with the knowledge of the basic number 4 we can go to the minor arcana; do your research and choose 4 to 5 keywords for the Fours and fill in your matrix. Once completed you can now use the suits/elements and the number to work with the keywords for the fours.

Then go through each of the Fours like you did the numbers preceding four — Four of Wands/fire, Four of Pentacles/earth, Four of Swords/air, and Four of Cups/water, figuring out each by combining the keywords. Go through each suit and number and fill it in your matrix.

Say you have drawn an Four of Cups — from your matrix what does the combination of the Cups/water and four give you as far as a description for the card???

You can share your keywords for each and your description of each card. To take it even further use your matrix to figure out how to take each of the cards in different spread positions. How will your keywords allow you to adjust to each of the positions.

If you have an Four of Cups/water, how will you define it for the future, for the past, for the present, for how you see yourself... etc. I think you will find that your keywords will help you adjust to every position.

If you have questions, or need help, don't hesitate to ask. Let’s do this together and add to each other’s understanding! No matter how much or how little we know about tarot, there is always more to learn — it’s a lifetime of the joy of learning more

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With a break in time of a little over a month, let’s start working on the threes; Major Arcana 3s ~ 3 The Empress and 13 Death, and the Minor Arcana 3's ~ 3 of Wands/fire, 3 of Pentacles/earth, 3 of Swords/air, and 3 of Cups/water.

All the threes, including the major and minor arcana, will all have a core meaning that will assist you in remembering the 6-Three cards by knowing what the number 3 means. According to Keen.com ( www.keen.com/articles/tarot/number-3
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) in which Keen says: "Themes that these cards reinforce include loyalty, bonding, indulging and crossing the point of no return."

So now you know the basics for the major arcana the 3 ~ The Empress and 13 ~ Death. For further delineation you can add to these two from the pictures on the cards.

Also with the knowledge of the basic number 3 we can go to the minor arcana; do your research and choose 3 to 5 keywords for the Threes and fill in your matrix. Once completed you can now use the suits/elements and the number to work with the keywords for the threes.

Then go through each of the Threes like you did the Aces and Twos — Three of Wands/fire, Three of Pentacles/earth, Three of Swords/air, and Three of Cups/water, figuring out each by combining the keywords. Go through each suit and number and fill it in your matrix.

Say you have drawn an Three of Cups — from your matrix what does the combination of the Cups/water and three give you as far as a description for the card???

You can share your keywords for each and your description of each card. To take it even further use your matrix to figure out how to take each of the cards in different spread positions. How will your keywords allow you to adjust to each of the positions.

If you have an Three of Cups/water, how will you define it for the future, for the past, for the present, for how you see yourself... etc. I think you will find that your keywords will help you adjust to every position.

If you have questions, or need help, don't hesitate to ask. There are enough of us here that can jump in and add to your understanding — and you may even add to ours (I look forward to that)!

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OWL_CAN_DOIT ~ You definitely do it at your own time. This is not a class only a help and a place to ask questions and share. You know what your life is like and how much time you have to work with tarot or any other thing. You are the captain of your own ship.

The one suggestion I have is find enough time sometime during the day to pull at least one card and make a notation of what the card is. Use the card to help you schedule, make sense of your day, or warn you of ---say a possible tense time with family or co-workers. Also sometimes its good to get confirmation that --- yes, this is a good day and I'm not pretending!

Come back when you can and good luck with your busy life!

I pulled a helper card for you from the Gaian tarot --- Explorer of Earth (Knight of Pentacles). Yes, you are busy! Just remember to be grounded in the earth and choose simplicity. It is a time to be realistic and practical with a good strong mix of intuition. If things get a bit over-stressful spending some time in nature will melt all that stress away and bring you back to your center where you can once again be practical and hear your intuition loud and clear.




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Ceker9,

I wish to thank you for all you have done to help me learn about Tarot. I am taking a break from the study for awhile. Just so much going on, I am not finding the time to study. Perhaps we can pick this back up later when the days are shorter and my chores are less. :)

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OWL_CAN_DOIT ~ in order for me to give you an example that you can understand if you can send me your matrix including the suits/elements and through the 2s. I will try to help you understand by using your own matrix to come up with a description or two for you. By using your own matrix, it will help you see where the blendings will be useful and relatively easy to do. Care must be taken when blending the suits and the number than one of the elements can get left out --- in other words describing the Ace of Wands with only the suit/element keywords and not include the number means --- blending of the two are important.

We can work with this until you understand and can do it easily. The concept is sometimes easy to get, but when the actual blending is required, it becomes harder until you've done it a few times. I had a bit of a problem at first also. I will also say there are still days when I throw the cards and look at them and they ar just a mish-mash of colors and lines that have no meaning at all. That is perfectly normal, although, as you work with your cards, those times will come less and less frequently.

When I get your matrix, I'll help with a couple general, then a couple specific as related to the spread position. We'll work with it until you understand.
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Ceker9,

My matrix is coming along nicely with all the information you have directed me to. BUT, I just draw a blank, even after reading what you have written on your matrix, on the "crosspoint box". I cannot come up with examples of what should be in the box between, i.e.. aces and wands. If I was doing a reading, wouldn't I just be mindful of the key words and ideas of the meanings of the number and the suit and keep in mind the question the querant is asking. (and that querant is usually myself). ?

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Now we can start working on the twos; Major Arcana 2s ~ The High Priestess and Hanged Man, and the Minor Arcana 2's ~ 2 of Wands/fire, 2 of Pentacles/earth, 2 of Swords/air, and 2 of Cups/water.

All the twos, including the major and minor arcana, will all have a core meaning that will assist you in remembering the 6-Two cards by knowing what the number 2 means. According to www.keen.com/articles/tarot/number-2
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in which Keen says: "The themes of each two card can be summarized as patience, balance, extremes and the struggles inherent in these processes."

So now you know the basics for the major arcana the 2 ~ High Priestess and the 12 ~ Hanging Man. For further delineation you can add to these two from the pictures on the cards.

OK — now to the minor arcana; do your research and choose 3 to 5 keywords for the Two and fill in your matrix. Now you can use the suits/elements and the number to work with the keywords for the twos.

Then go through each of the Twos like you did the Aces — Two of Wands/fire, Two of Pentacles/earth, Two of Swords/air, and Two of Cups/water, figuring out each by combining the keywords. Go through each suit and number and fill it in your matrix.

Say you have drawn an Two of Pentacles — from your matrix what does the combination of the Pentacles/earth and two give you as far as a description for the card???

You can share your keywords for each and your description of each card. To take it even further use your matrix to figure out how to take each of the cards in different spread positions. How will your keywords allow you to adjust to each of the positions.

If you have an Two of Pentacles/earth, how will you define it for the future, for the past, for the present, for how you see yourself... etc. I think you will find that your keywords will help you adjust to every position.

If you have questions, or need help, don't hesitate to ask. There are enough of us here that can jump in and add to your understanding — and you may even add to ours (I look forward to that)!

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Thank you Ceker9, as always, you have gone the extra mile for me. Now I understand how to put this matrix "together". I will be taking a little time to work on it. You are so nice, to help me learn this.

I will work on this one card at a time, and can post the card with my interpretation, here on this thread.

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I have plug in the matrix using all of my keywords which are probably different than your. It will show you in general what it can mean to combine the keywords. They can be combined in many different ways and using different words with the same meaning, but a slightly different slant on it. I have only done the general, you will need to do the specific delineation for the different positions in different spreads.


Sorry I can't get it any bigger at this time... am working on it. I trust you'll be able to read it.

Edited by: CEKER9 at: 5/20/2016 (01:28)
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I would like you to use the Ace of wands and make an example. Thanks in advance.

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OK --- now we can start to use our matrix to learn the cards without a book.Remember we are working with the pip cards or the minor arcana cards. Although you will find the one card will relate very well to the 1 Magician in the major arcana.Plus once you understand how the one works with the Magician, you can use that information to help you with the pip cards while blending the one with the suit/element.

There are two items that we have to work with --- the suits/elements and the number. We have all of the suits/elements filled in and the Ace keywords available now.

Say you have drawn an Ace of Wands --- what will the combination of the Wands/fire and one give you as far as a description???

Go through each of the Aces --- Ace of Wands/fire, Ace of Pentacles/earth, Ace of Swords/air, and Ace of Cups/water, figuring out each by combining the keywords.

You can share your keywords for each and your description of each card. To take it even further use your matrix to figure out how to take each of the cards in different spread positions. How will your keywords allow you to adjust to each of the positions.

If you have an Ace of Wands/fire, how will you define it for the future, for the past, for the present, for how you see yourself... etc. I think you will find that your keywords will help you adjust to every position.

If you have questions, or need help, don't hesitate to ask. There are enough of us here that can jump in and add to your understanding --- and you may even add to ours (I look forward to that)!

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Thank you Ceker9, I have considered your list and I understand why you think my list contains words that do not pertain as much.

And yes, I do have a Tarot Journal made out of a nice 3-ring binder with loose leaf papers that way I can add more pages as necessary. I appreciate that you are helping me build a tarot vocabulary.

For the sake of my learning the idea of a Matrix, I would like to keep it to 3 universal descriptive words for each number card. I think this would help me learn at a faster pace and I can add to my list / matrix after we get the matrix filled out the first time around. Therefore I have edited my list and will keep the first 3.

Where do I go from here?
Thanks so much for taking this time to help me learn so much!!

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My first question would be how many meanings were in your list before you whittled it down to the five you have listed? I trust you had as many as 20 or 30 or even more that you chose from. I also trust you have a notebook will all the ones you sifted through while choosing these five.

I will say that the first three of them are spot on the other two are a little off, they can be under certain circumstances, but may fit other numbers more than they fit the Aces.

Here is a part of my list that I use often:

beginnings, birth, seed, starting point, conception, elemental energy, spark, catalyst, possibility, pioneer, pioneering, innovator, original, creation, potential, drive, dawn, genesis, commence, initial, rudimentary, inception, origin

The reason I like to have so many is that some are better "spring-boards" for the different elements than others. I see pioneer being more assigned to Pentacles; catalyst or spark to Wands; potential to Swords; and conception to Cups --- although any of them can be used for any of the elements because they will each have a beginning of their particular brand of energy.

Use your list as is or adjust as you see fit. If you are anything like me you will find one or two that are your favorites and then switch the others out. For me my go to description for an Ace is beginning or seed. As you work with them you'll find yours.

Our next task will be to take the matrix and fill it in with the combination of the number and the suit/element.

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Aces:
Beginning
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We are on to the ACES ---

As I was wondering how to present this part of the matrix, I went through a great number of scenarios, many of which I did the lion's share of the work. Once I thought about it for a while, I decided that I've already done the work and don't need to do it again, but if you are wanting to learn more about your cards --- you need to do the work.

So --- your assignment is to research the meaning of the number ONE (Aces).

Go out and Google (or use another search engine) to locate the meaning of the number one and write them all down in a list that you will keep in a notebook or art journal or --- whatever form you wish to keep it. Once you have gathered a large list go through the list and whittle it down to 3 to 5 of the best choices for Ace and plug it in your Matrix, a sample which was included in my 4/14/2016 post.

When you plug in the Aces, you will have the suits/elements plugged in across the top and then will have the first of the number section filled in.

Reminder --- DO NOT throw away your "great" list that you chose your 3-5 from as you may, from time to time, want to review that list and add to your knowledge of the suits/elements and numbers. You also may want to change out your chosen 3-5 every so often.

Once you have accomplished that, we will begin showing you how to use your keywords to combine and expand to come up with your own delineation of the cards without depending on the books.

Enjoy!

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Many of your words were very good, I just added some other suggestions that you could use some are better, some are equal --- they just have to help you understand! One thing that I do is keep a list for myself and I have added and subtracted, combined words for another work, and changed my list so many times as my understanding of the cards help me understand them more!

I was going to give you my list, but it is so fluid and I didn't want you to have mine for a couple reasons, one) you are using a different deck than I am and two) the keywords have to speak to you. I thought the attachment was good as it gave both the positive and negative to show that not all of your keywords are necessarily positive --- although your list may contain only positive, it should be known that there are negatives for different layout positions and reversed cards.

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I corrected my list. And I will add the words and Ideas that you have suggested to the 4 elements in the Tarot Journal I am creating.

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Good list.

I have a few comments. I would change up the Fire (Wands) and Air (Swords) ones a bit... my suggestion...

With fire there is energy, action, passion, creativity, this is where transformation takes place, maybe add enthusiasm and power. When you see red what do you think of --- those are the kinds of words you're looking for.

With Air things are a bit different. I take a hint from the name Swords itself --- words. Air is thinking, communications, ideas, clarity, problem solving, planning, and yes some conflict. Although I have lightened up the Swords a bit because I see the old school thinking that thought can't be changed easily and communications between people is often contentious although with the new things that have come out about thinking and the ability to change lives in very positive ways just by thinking and especially the new research that is showing that through thinking and speaking we can change our own dna --- far different from the old views of communications and their view that there was an inability to change obsessive thinking.

To simplify this a little bit, let me add an image that I saw on the web and thought it was really good as it had both positive and negative keywords. Then take your list and readjust it with keywords from both my suggestions and from the attached image and you'll have a great list not just a good list. You did really well.

Your keywords will form the base you will use to combine with those from a number list to come up with a reading for a card. It needs to be a fluid list and one that changes over time as you find yourself gravitating to a different keyword for an element.


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Wands
1.Fire, 2. Action, 3. Energy, 4. Movement 5. Day to Day

Pentacles
1. Earth, 2. Material World, 3. Work / Finances, 4.Physical Consciousness 5. Health

Swords
1. Air, 2. Thoughts, 3. Ideas, 4. Intellect, 5. Power

Cups
1.Water, 2. Emotions, 3. Relationships, 4. Creativity, 5. Consciousness



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What are your three - five keywords for the elements --- Wands, Discs, Swords, and Cups?

I have listed some below, yet I know there are a lot more that "sing" to each person, otherwise there wouldn't be so many books written on interpretation of the elements.

Have you placed them at the top of your chart?

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Thank you....I will be making a chart like this tomorrow. emoticon

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Today I have an assignment. I trust you have done your research and have chosen your keywords for the four suits/elements.

I suggest that you choose 3 to 5 of from your keyword list so you have a solid base, but not too many to confuse you. I normally find 3 or 4 or maybe even 5 to be workable. For example for Wands if among your choices you have chosen two words action and movement; you can whittle it down to one if action also means movement to you, then blend (in your mind) the two words and choose action to put on your "short" keyword list.

From your short keyword list start a matrix that will look similar to the following:


For now plug in your keywords (more than 3 keywords can be added as you wish) at the top of the matrix for the Suit/Elements. We will be filling in the numbers from Ace through King as we go through each number.

Have fun!


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Thank you Ceker9,
This is very clarifying to me. Also, pairs perfectly with information I have gathered on other web pages.

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We are going to begin with the minor arcana also called the pip cards and cover the suits and their elements with this session. These are my interpretations and are suggestions not absolutes. It is important for you to come up with your own (you can do it right away or ease into it one at a time) so they "fit" you and help you read the cards easily and quickly.

Basically the suits are Wand, Pentacles, Swords, and Cups. They may have other names, but with rare exceptions they are all basically the same — Wands can also be called Rods, Batons, Staves, and others. Pentacles can be named Discs, Coins, Rings, among other. Swords are normally Swords, but may have other names. Cups can also be referred to as Chalices, Goblets as well as other names.

Basically all of the suits are associated with an element and with rare exceptions remain the same throughout all tarot decks. Wands are associated with fire; Pentacles are associated with earth; Swords are associated with air; and Cups are associated with water. I have a passing study with astrology and find the association with the elements in astrology and tarot are basically the same. So if you understand the elements from astrology, numerology, or another occult/metaphysical science you can transfer that knowledge pretty much straight across to the suit itself.

The suits also have other correspondences as noted from the following quote from www.rajunasrefuge.com/tarot.html : “The four suits also correspond to the many systems of four devised by people over the ages: the four directions or winds (north, south, east, west); the four elements (fire, water, air, earth); the four seasons; the four worlds of the Kaballah (Divine, Creative, Formative and Manifest worlds); the four Humors (yellow bile, black bile, phlegm, blood); and the four Jungian archetypical functions of the mind (thinking, feeling, sensation and intuition).” Therefore, you can use any system you are familiar with to assist you in reading your cards. To see a chart of some of the associations check here: www.tarotteachings.com/tarot-
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. You will note that some sites have different associations than others. Since others have disagreed with the associations, what your task is, is to find what associations ring more true to you and help you rather than hinder your understanding of tarot and your readings.

WANDS ~ element Fire; some meaning are creative energy, pure energy, enthusiasm, growth, enterprise, passion, and action.

PENTACLES ~ element Earth; some meanings are being anything physical, health, wealth (abundance/prosperity), manifestation, and stewardship of the physical.

SWORDS ~ element Air; meanings are the mind, intellect, ideas, mental clarity, thoughts, observation, and challenges.

CUPS ~ element Water; meanings are intuition; empathy and full range of emotions such as love, sorrow, friendship, loneliness.

I have given some suggestions of what the elements mean “to me”. It is important for you to do some of your own research and pick 3-5 that feel good to you and work with those.

I do encourage discussion here as what makes perfect sense to me may not mean much to another reader because of several reasons. Plus, I have worked with these suits and elements for so long that I may have missed a step or a meaning that seem too simple for me to add because I know it so well and “assume” everyone else does too. So add your ideas, questions. Don't be afraid to choose your correspondences for the elements even if you aren't sure and be willing to adjust them as you work with them over the years. Please question what I’ve said as it may conflict with what you’ve been taught or have read. Discussion is where everyone learns and I’m willing and ready to learn more — teach me!

Blessings,
Collien~~~
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Thank you!

I look forward to your ideas on learning what the 4 elements represent.

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I'm starting this thread by request to help with what I believe to be an easier way for interpretation of cards by using the suits and their element blending them with the numbers. First learn the suits and their elements--- Wands (fire), Pentacles (earth), Swords (air), and Cups (water). And the numbers and how the cards relate to each other --- 1 Magician, AW, AP, AS, AC, 11 Justice; 2 High Priestess, AW, AP, AS, AC, 12 Hanged Man; etc...

Personally, I was having a very difficult time in learning the cards as I have a very difficult time with memorizing and I wasn't able to learn the 78 cards but particularly since each book gives a little different version of what they thought the cards meant. So, how could I learn without having a book next to me at all time. And then get confused even then.

When I saw this method, I was able to understand it and learn it quickly. After nearly 10 years of struggling, I was able to work with this method in a couple of months without depending on a book or "cheat sheet".

I trust you will find it as easy as I have and give you the confidence you deserve to have.

Blessings,
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