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2/8/10 8:59 A

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Just not gone yet-- I'll keep posting until my time runs out... between packing boxes! LOL

I've got maybe until Thursday or so--or until the carrier cuts out again! LOL

It's a good thing, I need the break now and then! ... LOL
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Edited by: I.M.MAGIC at: 2/8/2010 (09:00)
"The real secret of success is enthusiasm..." thanks, Walter P. Chrysler. I believe it. That's what I want in my life--to give my imagination a chance, to live with energy and enthusiasm!
P.S. I looked up enthusiasm, and it says the root words mean God within... interesting...!

Ralph Waldo Emerson said 'Life belongs to the energetic.' But I don't think you have to be frenetic and hyper--some energy is quiet and steady, like a heartbeat... and that works too!


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Kathy, did you get moved already? Are you back, or just not gone yet?

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Your are so right. There is nothing quite like talking face to face.

I am lucky in that most of my family have developed T2 over the years. Some were milder and able to control through diet and pills. My dad eventually went on insulin but my mom was on pills to the day she died. I did get some of that negativity from a couple of the "diet and pill" contingent when I first started using insulin, but the sister I am closest to (my twin) is very supportive and understanding. She is lucky that she is only on metformin, but she has other issues (like MS) to contend with so really not so lucky at all.

My best role model was one of the social workers at the hospital where I worked. He would go to the cafeteria and didn't matter who he sat with, up his shirt and in with the needle, then on with his lunch.

I saw your other post about your friends saying you should use the restroom, and I say you are so right for looking after your own health first and foremost. They are the ones with a problem, not you.

Hope you had a good evening. Take care.

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2/7/10 10:38 P

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Oh no, Linda, I did not take your message as putting me down or contradicting me in any way! Sometimes that's the problem with writing vs. speaking - you can't hear someone's voice tone or read someone's body language.

I was just referring to the "good" of insulin to Julz626 since she mentioned she had stopped using insulin for awhile and, perhaps wrongly, I got the feeling she was dealing with negative feelings about taking insulin. I didn't know if she or family/friends where making her feel guilty about it. She never said why she stopped taking it so that's why my references to not feeling guilty, ashamed, blaming one's self for the complications, feeling like a failure, etc. For all I know, it may have been financial or just the thought of injecting a needle into her skin/body.

I don't know about you, but I experienced some of these emotions from family and friends so I guess I'm more sensitive and aware of what others may be going through once they have to take insulin. I've heard..."if only you took better care of yourself"....."you know diabetes runs in the family, you should have had yourself checked"......"I don't take insulin, you must be eating more then you should"....."let me tell you what my Uncle Harry who died 25 years ago, you used to do"....."I manage my diabetes through diet and exercise only, why don't you try that"....and outright..."What are you doing wrong that you need insulin?"...."You should change doctors!"....."Just try pills, if it doesn't work, then go back to insulin"....."I would never go on insulin, I would rather die first!!"...Etc.

It's been a long time since I let people's negative comments affect my body's need for insulin. However, I'm still struggling as I've mentioned in one of my other messages, not on this thread, "friends" think it is inappropriate for me to take my insulin in front of them at a diner even though I put the meter and insulin pen on my lap and put my purse on the table in front of me to hide what I'm doing. I'm constantly told I should do it in the public restroom, which I refuse for sanitary reasons, or in the car. Or I hear "you're not going to die if you miss an injection"...or "Why can't you just test and take your injection when you get home"..."Or, the doctors just tells you, you have to take insulin 15 minutes before you eat, you can't believe everything a doctor tells you....how naive you are believing everything a doctor tells you!"

Sorry for the lengths of my messages all the time. So I'll end this.

Again, sorry if you thought I misinterpreted your message, I didn't!

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Consistency, compliance... same thing pretty much. Not being consistent or compliant with your protocols can have dire consequences, not just long term but short term as well (like coma, anyone??) Being consistent CAN stop the progression if caught in the early stages, and/or slow down the whole process, but that having been said... I just wanted to add , LORRELIS, it's true that you can do everything right and still end up with complications... my kidney specialist said that, my endocrinologist said that, even my Primary Care Physician-- so you listen and learn, and do the best you can with the info you've been given, you ask for a second opinion if necessary, and then it's full steam ahead! LOL

Hang in there...
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"The real secret of success is enthusiasm..." thanks, Walter P. Chrysler. I believe it. That's what I want in my life--to give my imagination a chance, to live with energy and enthusiasm!
P.S. I looked up enthusiasm, and it says the root words mean God within... interesting...!

Ralph Waldo Emerson said 'Life belongs to the energetic.' But I don't think you have to be frenetic and hyper--some energy is quiet and steady, like a heartbeat... and that works too!


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2/7/10 9:47 P

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Hey LORRELIS I was not trying to down or contradict you, just adding to what you already said. Julz626 said she was a diabetic for a few years before starting on insulin last year. I don't know if she was on pills first or not.

My experience with the weaking or wearing out pancreas (I think that is the same thing) was too many pills over many years that eventually did it. It would have been better if my doc had put me on insulin much earlier. But she didn't and I was a bad girl and didn't comply completely so now I live with the consquesnces. I just wanted her to know that there ARE consquences for being non-compliant.

Hope you are having a great day.

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2/7/10 7:58 P

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I've never been on diabetic pills. When I was diagnosed, they put me immediately on insulin. I never resisted going on it because I trusted my doctors would not put me on insulin unless there was no other choice.

So I don't know about oral medication except what I hear from my 2 monthly diabetic support groups and what I glance over in literature. Since I don't take pills, I don't have a need to know how oral medication works on the pancreas so I don't know about it eventually wearing out the pancreas. Perhaps wearing and weakening are the same thing, I don't know.

My message was based on insulin since that's the only thing I know and research; how it works on the pancreas and body overall.

When I asked my endocrinologist about my need to take more insulin lately then I used to and what can I do to prevent higher doses, he was the one who said, as we age, our pancreas as well as other body parts weaken. He knew from my logs that I turn into him, I was doing the best I could. Yes, my logs are perfectly accurate because I know he can ask me for my glucose meter and go into memory and check the numbers himself if he thought I was lying. Since I wouldn't put it past him to do that, I don't want to ruin my creditability with him and lie about my numbers. Besides, who would I be lying to? Myself? My blood test? Good doctors know when their patients are lying or are in denial.

As I've gotten older, and unfortunately have a lot of diabetic complications, I can't be as active as I used to be. I was a gym nut, but the doctors have cut off all those exercises. Now, I'm very limited in what I exercises I can do and the length of time. Cutting back on so much exercise is also adding to higher glucose levels. Top that with my need to cut back on my calories that I used to be able to eat because I was so active, it results in higher sugar levels as well. Basically, it's a combination of everything. My point to the message I posted earlier, is not to feel guilty about your need to take insulin whatever the reason and accept your need to take insulin and not to blame yourself as a failure because of your body's need for insulin.

As far as my complications, the doctors tell me that the diabetes is hitting me harder then it should since my A1C used to be about 5.4 and yet I continued to have additional complications. So could I have prevented some of my complications? The doctors told me probably not except, like most diabetics, I didn't know I had it so I should have gotten it tested earlier.

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Regarding LORREILA's post about weakening pancreas.

I was on Diabeta type pills for many years. I asked my doc about this once and she said the thinking was that if you flood your system with insulin, eventually some will actually do the job. The pills force the pancreas to produce more insulin but eventually the pancreas wears out because it has been forced to overwork for so long.

I am now on insulin and if I had known way back when, I would not have fought so hard to stay off it. I might not have some of the complications now had I been more compliant back then.

Please, please, please, take your insulin as perscribed. People die from Diabetes complications and you don't want to put yourself in that category.

Best of luck to you.

Edited by: LITTLEWIND53 at: 2/7/2010 (02:17)
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2/6/10 11:08 P

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I'm glad you are back on insulin. Please don't get off it especially if and when you get pregnant and have a baby. More then ever, your child will need his/her mother for a long long time in their life.

You didn't mention why you went off insulin. I personally like it. Obviously, I would prefer not to take any diabetic medication be it pills or insulin. What I mean by liking insulin, is because it gives me more freedom in my food choices.

Yes, you are supposed to stay within certain carb limits, but occasions happen - Holidays, parties, etc. I'm on intensive therapy like most people on insulin and dose by where my sugar is at the time I test then allow a certain number of units as a base, then figure out a correction to get the sugar where it should be and then figure out how much extra carbs I'm going to eat to cover if it exceeds my normal amount of carbs. Sounds complicated, but it's very easy. It also makes you aware how much carbs you are going to eat then you really should.

Pills don't have this advantage of adjusting medication for the amount of carbs you are going to eat. Yes, you shouldn't overeat especially carbs, and yes, you should use diet and exercise as your first defense and not rely on medications, but none of us are perfect all the time throughout our lives.

Also, there is this myth out there that you have to go on insulin because you failed......You did not control your diabetes and now you're paying the price. Please don't believe that! It just means that your pancreas is weaker then someone else who is a diabetic. True, some people don't control their diabetes and have to "graduate" to insulin, but majority of us did do what we were supposed to, but unfortunately, our pancreas weakened through no fault of our own no matter how faithful we were to our diet and exercise routines especially. Like other body parts, our pancreas weakens as we age.

Also an advantage to insulin is if you have to delay a meal, for example if you're traveling, you don't have to worry about eating because your sugar is going to drop because your medication is kicking in. The short acting only lasts a few hours - much like a "normal" person's insulin would. So you are not forced to eat.

The only thing I don't like is to prick my finger because I find that hurts and I'm anemic so getting blood is a pain - literally and figuratively!! However, injecting in my stomach - I don't even feel it 99% of the time.

Best wishes with your pregnancy!

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"The real secret of success is enthusiasm..." thanks, Walter P. Chrysler. I believe it. That's what I want in my life--to give my imagination a chance, to live with energy and enthusiasm!
P.S. I looked up enthusiasm, and it says the root words mean God within... interesting...!

Ralph Waldo Emerson said 'Life belongs to the energetic.' But I don't think you have to be frenetic and hyper--some energy is quiet and steady, like a heartbeat... and that works too!


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Remember to get a nutrition counselor,take all your meds, and follow your dr's advice. Good luck & God bless. lucie641

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emoticon and emoticon to the team. Glad that you could join us.

If you have any questions, donít hesitate to ask. There is always someone around to answer or point you in the right direction.

I wish you much success on your journey. emoticon

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Have your Dr do a fasting insulin level test. If it's low, then you need insulin. If it's normal or high, then other options should be tried.

Also have your vitamin D level tested.

I hate being diabetic myself! But, together we all can beat it!

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Welcome Julz. I am doing 5 shots a day and I hate it. I am really working hard to lose this weight and get off the shots. I was able to go from 25 units with each meal down to 7. I have went from 38 units of Levimer twice a day down to 25 twice a day. Just don't give up. Having a baby is great motivation.

174 will put me at overweight, but not obese!!!


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Best wishes! You already know that following the Dr and Diabetes Educator instructions are key to success. If you haven't met with a diabetes educator, ask your dr for a referral. They are a wealth of information, and a diabetes nutritionist (sometimes the same person) can also help to establish a healthy eating regimen.

Wishing you the best as you set out to meet your goals. Good luck, Mom!

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If you can exercise regularly, it may help in weight loss and blood sugar control. You may also have an easier pregnancy and, of course, be able to keep up with a toddler better. Firemen and police are taught to do squats (keeping the back straight) to lift weights from the floor (starting with something really small) that would help strengthen your back and legs for working with a little one. Here's an article that has some interesting information on diabetes and pregnancy. Good health! www.health.am/pregnancy/type-1-diabe
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good luck

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Good luck to you on getting your diabetes under control. I am also a diabetic but haven't gotten to the insulin stage. The meds and diet seem to keep it pretty much under control.

Take it one day at a time and do what it takes to make everything work for you. emoticon

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Ok, here it is , i have been a diabetic for a few years now and this last year i had to start taking insulin,i did it for a while then i just quit, yes iknow dumbbbbb, but now im back on it and trying to start getting everything under control, i would like to get everything in a normal range so that i can try to have a baby, so wish me luck and give me strength to do what is right for myself...thanks for reading ... emoticon

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