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SOUNDS like a great idea to me.

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6/29/11 12:46 P

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I think there is probably a perception that there isn't anything in this area interesting enough to research or that is actually unknown. But if one could come up with a sufficient research rationale, it sounds like a good area to start some sort of charitable foundation. Let's face it, who wouldn't want to fund studies expected to result in generally in "perkier" breasts?

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I'm seeing two things that aren't being mentioned. The first is that as you build up pectoral and chest muscles you can put on half a "cup" size simply because the muscles underlying the breasts add both bulk, and support that makes the breasts (slightly) more prominent. Maybe the fat loss/muscle gain ends up at net zero. So no measurable loss.

The next is that breasts S-T-R-E-T-C-H over time (damn that gravity) and that they don't easily firm up even when fat is lost. Unlike many other areas of your body, there are no muscles in your breasts. So when you firm up/loose fat there is nothing pulling it all back together to cause the skin to reduce in area. So the "bags" are still the same size even if they are less "full". Perhaps they still measure up at the same dimensions but have a lower fat content.

I don't know that I've seen as much science in this area as I'd like. A lot of theories based on other facts, perhaps. Is no one out there willing to fund a "boob study"? Come on Playtex, step up! :)



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6/11/11 5:54 P

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Wolfkitty is right...boobs aren't JUST made of fat...this is why some (gifted) gals out there can be described as "all boob" and be svelte everywhere else. Most prominent example in my mind is my friend from college who wore a size 2 pant...and wore a 30G bra. Farm girl from Florida, no implants or anything. To say she had a hard time finding clothing is an understatement. Our Freshmen year of college she had a breast reduction...to take her down to a "scant" d-cup (her doc said anything smaller would be risking error on his part, as it was already pretty involved as it was). She also had spent years trying to find alternatives to surgery (she had developed early, and was kind of traumatized by them), and never could find a thing.

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6/2/11 8:15 A

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HOORAY FOR BOOBIES!!!

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5/23/11 10:02 A

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I am happy to lose fat all over, tends to be waist first then boobs last thighs and stomach, (hour glass shape) but I am happy to have boobs to balance the hips and thighs, YAY Boobs, and yes gravity is the enemy, a well designed bra is a must.

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Breasts are mainly fat, that's kind of true. But the kind of breasts that you appear to have, include a LOT of actual breast tissue (mass, stuff that's unaffected by weight loss).

In fact, other women that are made the same as you often complain that losing weight makes their bigger breasts even more noticeable (because you lose the stomach underneath them, and suddenly, they seem more prominent than before). Above your pectoral muscle is fibrous tissue, blood vessels, nerves and lymph vessels. You may have more of this than some other women. Breast reduction isn't necessarily the solution.

But, you also list 60 pounds to go on your ticker until you reach your goal weight. I think it's too soon to start thinking about breast reduction surgery. I've known women who have done it, with your body composition/shape, and then have a host of concerns when they regain weight, change their perception, etc.

My legs will always be short. My wrists and ankles have always been small and my thighs have always been dramatically bigger, with underlying muscle. That is body shape related, how I'm made.

Most of the discussion online has to do with increasing (or in the case of breast implants, preserving) breast tissue. One of the things I've read is that menopause definitely cause atrophy of breast tissue.

This are just some of my disconnected thoughts on the subject. I'm distracted because I have bills to pay, etc... So I can't cleverly wrap this up. All the best to you, Bee!
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Wait a minute... I think I'm having this problem too. They haven't gone down much at all. Someone help here! No, I'm not quite like Bob [ www.motifake.com/image/demoti
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Anyone know a good brand of manssiere?


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11/10/10 9:25 A

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Can we stay focused on the specific topic here? Please?

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Thanks Beth, I'm familiar with the book. In fact, I did a chapter by chapter review of the book in a series of blog posts starting here:

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11/9/10 4:50 P

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Re. losing fat vs. just losing weight, which may mean losing muscle also, check out Burn the Fat, Feed the Muscle, which is comes only in ebook downloadable format, by Tom Venuto. About $35 I think. Also has good info on measuring body fat loss.

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11/7/10 4:43 P

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You hit the nail on the head, if we could get BB to do something about this gravity sphit, we would have a lot less trouble around here!

And Yeah Boobs!

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I'm going to go with anything looks great on lean, fit, young people. Uniboob smashers weren't meant to look good on anyone, especially anyone with less-than-perfect breasts. Mine shrank, but I still need support because gravity is my enemy.

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Isn't this just like any other area? It's impossible to spot reduce anything.

Oh ya, and GO BOOBS!

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11/7/10 1:13 A

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I get frustrated because I haven't lost much in that area either...I've mainly just been trying to firm up the attached areas... lol.

I really wanted to lose a cup size and haven't, but I have ended up losing roughly three inches since really getting into a routine, strength training and running more. (Unfortunately it has lead to many injuries lately too...)

Anyways, if you figure anything out, let me know.

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They look great on lean, fit, young people. But perhaps anything does.

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Thanks - I do hate the uniboob smashers - they don't work at all ... and not very attractive to say the least.

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11/4/10 3:01 P

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The Bargain Watch area of Video Fitness Forum occasionally has a thread on sports bras, or deals on them also. Perhaps monitor that occasionally.

Make sure to try both styles. I think from what I've seen, larger-busted women tend to prefer the individual-cup styles over the uniboob smashers which work great for smaller breasted women.


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There are a number of specialty sports bra manufacturers for this purpose.

Check out:

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SparkPage has pics -but maybe not the kind you'd prefer. At any rate - my husband is not at all on board with my quest to reduce breasts.

I'd shout horray for boobies too if I could find a sports bra that prevented black eyes - - maybe then I'd take up running.

But in all seriousness - Graceful has provided me great insight. I believe I am losing weight and not fat. I have not been measuring body fat percentage - but will start asap. Need to know those numbers.

I just recently got serious about strength training - so time will tell.

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I'm guessing a simple comment of "Pictures?" would be inappropriate, so never mind on that.

I'll just second, Hooray!

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11/3/10 9:09 P

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OH, and. HOORAY FOR BOOBIES!

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4A, I know enough about your regime to say in your case, possible... and if so good job.


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"Many women would kill for your loss pattern. But you probably already knew that."

True, and true.

But puzzling, all the same, which is why I appreciate Debra's question in the first place.

I wonder how much of this is due to the upper body strength I've developed? Probably a fair amount.

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11/3/10 4:00 P

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- you can easily judge what is fat and what is not.

Most women lose some breast size when they lose weight. In actual fact, when they approach very low body fat it is darn near inevitable that ALL will for all practical purposes - your body isn't going to keep those over areas of essential fat. However, everyone loses or gains fat in a different pattern.

Muscles build specifically, where you work them. Fat comes off in sheets, generally, though everyone has their own areas of more difficult fat to remove. Just keep losing and it will happen. Are you tracking fat vs. muscle masses in any way? Because you could theoretically lose weight and inches and not lose fat, in which case you probably wouldn't lose appreciable boob size.

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Right there with ya, sister.

My proportions are all different from what they used to be before super morbid obesity.

Including the chestal area, which is 3-4 inches bigger than before, although the waist and hip areas are smaller.
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Not that I'm complaining - I guess. Although it does make buying clothes interesting.

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Catchy title, huh? Men folk, try not to be alarmed, as I will indeed talk about my boobs. Feel free to log off and ignore me :)

It seems I am losing inches everywhere EXCEPT in the breast area. Many women complain that this is the first thing to go, but that has not been my case, and truly wouldn't mind if it was.

Tried to do some research about exercises or nutrition for natural breast reduction, as I truly do not want surgery. Even tried Google Scholar. Got a lot of plastic surgeons saying you'll get saggy skin if you don't do surgery.

Meanwhile, I did find this link. Not sure of its credibility though. www.shapefit.com/workout-questions-r
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This link says boobs are mainly fat, and if you lose fat, you should lose boob size, but I am not for some reason.

Any thoughts? Yes, even the men can comment if they so desire.

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