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1/19/14 7:34 P

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that's good news

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1/19/14 5:03 A

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emoticon to hear

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1/18/14 10:13 P

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BB, that is such great news. Thanks for letting us know!!! emoticon

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1/18/14 5:47 P

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happy new year all you critter lovers- i wanted to tell you how well penny is doing - she reached her goal - and has kept the status quo.
now with benny - the vet says he is PERFECT - but i would like him to have maybe one/two pounds put on his ribs . nevertheless he is a happy camper .
hope all is well with your furry friends too!!!




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thanks - big hugs done - emoticon




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Good to hear that things are looking up

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Sounds like great progress to me. Olive oil is great, don't hesitate to add some fat on the other days as well. Pasture butter or a higher fat cut of meat would be great. Full-fat yogurt or sour cream are great options, too.
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8/13/13 8:45 P

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Please give Penny a big hug for me!!!

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8/13/13 6:17 P

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her fur is better - her skin is a bit dry so i have added 1 tsp of olive oil three times week to her food. she is feeling just fine - and much better now that the real heat is done.




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Has her fur situation improved? Hope the weight loss stops and she starts putting a little back on. Thinking of you and Penny!!!

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Penny lost another half pound - her thyroid is ok.
i am so relieved . i am making fifty per cent of her meals -




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7/27/13 1:26 A

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I'd worry too after all the recalls etc that have happened over there.

I know I keep saying this but we have good dog and cat food manufacturers over here. There are always some I wouldn't touch with a barge pole, but the ones I use for ours (when I don't make my own for them) look and smell like proper food and have never had recalls on them.

I agree with you Birgit about the Science Diet, I personally think it's crap and overpriced crap at that.

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Homecooking for dogs is definitely much healthier than any kibble you can buy, even the best. Unfortunately Science Diet is one of the worst foods on the market, full of highly allergenic ingredients. Vet students get it for free in huge quantities while in vet school. It works ok in some cases for the prescription diets, but more often than not it has huge negative side effects.
Check out dogfoodadvisor.com for more details.
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thx girls - yes i have now added a blood work up for her including thyroid - .
i used to feed her an organic brand - 'slim care formula w salmon' or chicken etc and add a bit of olive oil to it.
years ago i cooked for my pugs and i think i might go back to that for 50 per cent of their diet. i agree that good quality meats, proteins and omega 3 fats are good. i also used to give eggs for their coats.
i have my doubts about this mass produced pet food - even from the vet.




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I'd be concerned that as she was never a pudgy dog why she'd now start to put on weight. Things like hormones at different times in animals (and humans) life can affect all sorts of bodily functions.

The hair coming out may be a food problem but it still might be a metabolic problem. I'd still think about some blood tests.

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I would give the vet a call about the hair coming out. It could be seasonal shedding as the days are getting shorter again, but it could also be brought on by the change in diet and a severe lack of certain nutrients, in particular quality fat. I'm curious what you fed your dog before the new diet? I would be very concerned about the high grain content in this food. Wheat, soy and corn are all ingredients that should not be part of a high quality dog food in my opinion as they have a negative effect on the mineral balance of the body. If in doubt try a more meat and egg--based diet, the less processed, the better.
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penny goes for her needles and weigh in about two weeks - but i am concerned her fur is coming out more than usual. it is turning that color like when it is shedding - then comes out in clumps. i have brushed her and she seems to be uncomfortable.
i guess i will get this also checked out.




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thx for the great comments and suggestions.
i have requested a thyroid test - but the vet wanted to try this food first - so i agreed. it was one of the first things i thought of because Penny was not a pudgy pug at all - ever.
i agree with the lean type of proteins - and carbs can be detrimental in wt. maintenance.
i will keep you posted as to her progress.




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My mom has doxies and her vet told her to mix green beans in with thier food(a thought for
after you finish the expensive stuff)? It helps them stay full with no calories and they like it!

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So glad that you are willing to do what it takes to keep your dog healthy.
My experience is that the same that works for me works for my dogs: a low-carb diet. For dogs there is no need at all to feed carbs, and even apples and carrots may be too high in sugar for some. I recommend a raw meat and bones diet as the preferred food. If your dog does not have a very functional bite, common in this breed, a raw meat diet is still great but may have to be ground meat with a vitamin/mineral supplement added.
I agree that checking thyroid levels would be highly recommended, also make sure that your dog gets sufficient exercise (while avoiding any exercise in the heat, as for all short-nosed breeds).
Processed food is never as good as natural foods although it may work for a while. But keep in mind that the extreme heating process that dry dog food and canned dog food undergo destroy many nutrients.
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Hope this solution works quickly, so your pug doesn't have to stay on that expensive medicine!
Also hope that's the only problem, but I know pugs do love to eat. I've had 4 during my lifetime although I don't currently have one. Love them!

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It may not only be a problem of too much food. As Sandi says it could be a metabolic problem that the vet needs to check.

My previous cat Josie had a huge weight problem but that was definitely due to her previous owners lousy feeding regime. She went on to Hills food, she wasn't overly fussy on it and I supplemented it with fresh food and vegetables. She lost a large amount of weight (@7 kgs) but when we had her x-rayed we found that her joints were badly damaged. Stem cell and Pentosam injections helped her walk properly, but we were never sure how old she really was when she had to go to sleep.

I hope you are able to get your Penny's weight down to an acceptable level. Good Luck.

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My rescue Jack Russell, Zoey, had a problem with weight gain and they did blood work and found it was her thyroid. Have they check Penny's?? Zoey wasn't losing after getting the thyroid leveled out and so she is on Slentrol (?) and has lost all but 1.3 lbs. Hope Penny can get regulated and will get to her goal weight!!!

I asked the vet if I could take it but he said "no"!! Oh well!

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I had to use the cat version of the prescription food. It did work but you're right, it is expensive. Hmmm, wonder what it tastes like. lol

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penny is my five year old black pug - she is such a little princess . food is the meaning of her life, but i have always always been aware of how pugs can get obese.
she has always had just the amount of food allowed - with small fresh apple slices or little rounds of raw carrots as her treats. only at christmas time does she get any type of store bought 'treats'. and only half of one at a time.
still in the past few months she has gone up in weight to 22 pounds - and ideally should be 18 pounds- she is a small girl.
she is happy and active - but foams at the mouth for her food.
the vet has put her on a program - foods is METABOLIC ADVANCED WEIGHT SOLUTION by Hills. she is on track - at 13 weeks to lose four pounds. she is down 1 pound after 3 wks.
it is very expensive $30. for 6 pounds - works out to about $1. day to feed her.
but if it works - i will be satisfied - then she would be on the maintenance food. they claims to actually speed up and change the dog's metabolism.
has any one had experience with this product?
hey if it works for the dogs - maybe WE should be eating it.




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