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I am afraid not up here in central Alberta, MRSLIVINGWELL. I am not even sure what you mean by "winter seed sowing". It is a completely alien concept to me. What exactly do you do? And when do these seeds move outdoors? Or do they?

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We have gone from 70s to 20s in 24 hours with snow on the roof. I do like a lot of sustained cold in our 6bzone because it kills some of the bad bugs.

I'm getting ready for winter seed sowing by accumulating my containers (at this point putting holes in the new ones, and staging the old ones.

Does anyone else do Winter Seed sowing?

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You are so right Cathy! I have a pile of at least a dozen books beside my bed that need reading! That is the silver lining of winter and cold temps!

Janey, I sure hope those brush fires don't move into your area, or grow into something bigger.
And I am going to add sugar snap peas to my shopping list. Thank goodness for California crops that make their way here to Canada!!

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Yep, and in other areas, they have already been deluged with freezing temps and snow, so whatever they didn't get done already this Fall will have to wait until next Spring. It is snowing here now, 3-6" of snow predicted. I need to get out soon to shovel, since the snow that has already fallen has partially melted and will turn to ice as the temps drop. Need to keep that stuff cleared at least until the new snow just remains snow, and then I can just wait until later this afternoon when it is supposed to quit to clear the rest.

On the bright side, I can finally get to some of the projects and chores inside that need tending too without feeling conflicted about all the stuff outside that also needs to get done!

Enjoy your warm temps!

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Wow, what a difference geography makes. I'm hoping it will finally be cool enough to plant my favorite sugar snap peas. Thursday the high is supposed to only be 78, so maybe.
Some brush fires south of me, I hate to even watch on TV, but lucky for us, not too close.

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Between watching my grandson during the week (who is now boycotting naps so getting anything done outside is a struggle while he's here), and all the rain we had all season long, I ended up way behind. This weekend was the last chance to get anything done, and fortunately it wasn't raining this time. I got done what I could, still lots more to do, but those things can wait until Spring. Just hoping the Spring weather next year cooperates more than this year's weather did!
Supposed to get colder, possibly start snowing tonight again, and the high on Tuesday will only be about 20F, and everything will be frozen.


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Cathy, it seems funny to read about your planting and digging... I went out for my first X-country ski of the season. We are snow covered now until spring, so I may as well dive right in to my winter activities. It makes the winter so much more enjoyable when a person can get outside and do something!
It is not quite as satisfying as playing in the dirt, but it will have to do for the next six months...

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Mild weather this weekend, so I took advantage of it. Got the creeping charlie pulled out of my now-dormant fern bed and then spread mulch over it. Emptied out my deck planters (got cold the last couple of nights, so the dirt was somewhat frozen around the dead salvia roots), took the 3 mums I had bought and planted them along the garage (they may or may not make it, since I read that those kind aren't really hardy enough for our area, but I figured why not take a chance and see). Planted 26 hardy amaryllis/magic lily/naked lady bulbs next to the garage too, as well as the garlic bulbs that had sprouted and a bleeding heart plant that will need to be divided next Spring. Only the bleeding heart actually belongs in that area, but I figure the rest will at least have a place to spend the Winter, and I can dig them up and move them next year when I'm ready to put in the actual plants I planned for that area.

I have a few more things to do tomorrow afternoon, but most everything else can wait until Spring.

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We have had power since Halloween. They announced a planned outage for maintenance work on Tuesday, but they never shut it off. I'm hoping fire season is over for the year, but we still may have some 90 degree days next week. Just so we don't relax too much there have been a lot of small earthquakes near Ventura.

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I would definitely start by filling it at least part of the way with large rocks, or maybe even chunks of cement if you have them. Then use smaller rocks to help fill in between the large ones, then maybe pea gravel? Cover that with clay and soil. If you don't have clay, maybe some cheap unscented kitty litter (which is basically just clay) would do the trick. The cheaper the kitty litter, the more likely it is just clay without anything else added

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I think 4-5 ft now. This is a man made pond for livestock and the substrate is shale. The water comes out on the side of a shale cliff nearby that is next to a creek. I am thinking of getting clay soil (and rocks?) to fill the hole, but I don't know where to get the soil (I don't have a place to dig on the place)

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How deep is the sinkhole? And do you know what is causing it and if it's still getting deeper?

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Taking advantage of good weather to clean up the garden and cover with cardboard so it's ready for spring planting. Already making my list of permaculture additions to my garden.

I'm pruning and going to make a bird/small animal sanctuary somewhere on the property.

Looking for advice for filling in a sinkhole?

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I have heard about the planned power outages in California, Janey. How long are you without power. I am guessing that is it not long enough to affect the food in your fridge or freezer. Must be darned inconvenient! However, better than more fires, by a long shot!
Is the situation improving overall? Our news seemed to imply that it was.

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Good one. Car clocks have become way too confusing. Last year I was at the dealer for something and they did it for me. I will have to read the book to do it myself. I may just subtract one. I'm not changing my microwave clock as we have a planned power outage on Tuesday so I'll do it then. For the 4th time in 2 weeks.

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That's good to hear. Let's hope no more fires spring up!

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Looks like things are getting better! Except for a planned maintenance electrical outage on Tuesday.

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Sorry to hear the danger continues. A few years ago, we had wildfires all over our state and even though we were never in danger, breathing the air was awful.

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Thanks everyone. We pulled off Halloween for the kids in town nicely. Our power is back on and I thought things were looking good until the Maria Fire started about 10 miles west of us. We are not in danger, but I'm hearing about animal rescue ranches that need to be evacuated and a large rural area that residents are being told to leave. Then some idiot decided to fly a drone over the fire so they had to call off all the aircraft for their own safety. Hope they can get them back up and dropping water soon.

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I am horrified about what is happening in California. Who can deny the obvious, relentless changes to our climate.

Oh wait.....

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My thoughts are with all of you in California who are affected by the fires again this year. Is this your new normal? It must be so scary, and so frustrating!

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Prayers are with you JANEYBEE. My sister lives south of SF. The power outages? Understand why but not sure if that is the way PG & E needs to go. How about fixing their lines.

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With all the wind and fires in SoCal I'm not even sure if we will have trick or treat this year. School is canceled the next two days for the third time due to likely power outage (5th and 6th days this month). The grandkids are upset because they lose the costume parade at school. Trying to keep what's left of my garden from blowing away.

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We look the same in central Alberta, MTRANCHWOMAN. I only just barely got the garden and flowerbeds cleaned up before the cold and snow began...

As usual, most of our trick-or-treaters will look like snowmobilers or abominable snowmen. Poor kids never seem to catch a break on the weather!

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Gardening outside is over in the Northern Rockies

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Making chutney: Managed to spot 4 ripe figs, which is a miracle because the birds always get them first. I even bought netting to put over them this year, but with the family illness and deaths, we couldn't get to it. I'm planning to make chutney on Wednesday before the frost and will chuck them in there with any green tomatoes I pick. Thinking of throwing some frozen wild blackberries in the freezer to get them used up.

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yep. Of course, I don't know if it is even possible for a cow to get up on the hood of a car.

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Photoshop! We never know what is real and what isn't anymore!

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It was photoshopped long ago and has been circulating for at least 6 years with different captions added to the picture. The cow was actually laying down in a field of grass. Still, it's good for a chuckle!

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Tee-hee! Silly cow!
I wonder what the real story is!

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Could it have been the variety? One of my pepper plants this year was a patio bell pepper, and they were just very small versions of red bell peppers. Not as sweet as bigger ones, so I did not enjoy them as much as I had hoped.

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I put up three qt bags of green pepper and one of tomatoes for the freezer. My garden was weedy, but boy it produced anyway. Never give up.

Any ideas why my peppers were not larger?

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Yesterday I dug the last of my carrots, scrubbed them all and bagged them - now to keep them as best I can in the fridge. I don't care for frozen carrots, so I just baby them along in the fridge in the basement. They do keep well for a few months. I also dug my parsnips, but there were only 6 of them, so it wasn't much of an effort!! Lol!
The only thing I have left to do before winter is rake up leaves etc, as the last bits accumulate around the yard. Winter is definitely in the air up here in Canada.

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Think I'll dig up an eggplant today from the garden and bring it in for the winter. As you can see, I've been wondering about this...

Here is a little info on treating eggplants as biennials/perennials.

www.latimes.com/home/la-xpm-2012-dec
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Six Mistakes to avoid when propagating plants:

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Just occurred to me that eggplants are probably the same (biennials). I'll have to dig up a few of those as well.

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Pansies are another that many in the north, like me, consider an annual. But down south they are either perennials or? They self seed there, and don't do that well self seeding in the more northerly climate. Fun to hear people argue about that. Had no idea peppers were biennial s. Cool to learn that.

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MRSLIVINGWELL: I had no idea! I assumed they were an annual. Learn something new every day!

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Joanneji:They are biennials in areas that don't have cold winters (like CA). I dig up and put in a gallon (?)sized pot until the spring (after the last frost date). They will produce a few small peppers in my sunny window, but not much, really. They really get going early in the spring, though--something that won't happen if I start them from seed....

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You can bring pepper plants in for the winter? How do you do that? They are not a tuber, are they? I am intrigued!

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I quickly picked all the peppers, large and small, because we were supposed to get the first freeze. Today, the pepper plants are still looking good. I'll dig a few up (or 20?) to bring inside for the winter.That way the peppers will be producing earlier next season and I'll have peppers all season. I'll be making (potato) fajitas with my green peppers today!

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Haha! That is too funny! Ours has been like a playground zone - barely above zero! (That is in Celcius, not Fahrenheit.)

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For grasshoppers, you use actual flour, not DE.

I use DE around the house too, even removing my outlet covers and using an old hair dye applicator to put it in there to help against any bugs that might be in the walls and coming in through the outlets. Also did the same around pipe openings (and then caulked those areas as well). I get mine at a local hardware store in the garden section, buying a large bag and then refilling my shakers as needed.

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by “flour” do you mean “diatomaceous earth”? I use it for other bugs, and need to lay out a sprinkling on the ground for next year (ticks, chiggers whatever.). We use it for the ants that come inside after the rains.

www.earthworks.com/

I buy from them prolly once every year or so. I’ve alsi used it internally for parasite prevention... This is a food grade DE and the people who have this website use it on their farm, with tbejr pets, livestock etc.

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Finally cool enough (high was 85) for me to enjoy doing some light yard work and repotting this morning. whould be cool tomorrow morning too. 75 at 10AM.

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Quite cool.

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Forgot to post this link earlier. This may be old information for you all, but I thought it was fascinating! Amazing how our assumptions sometimes get in the way of reality. This is about trees and where they get their mass from. youtu.be/2KZb2_vcNTg

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@MTRANCHWOMAN I've read up on pine needles and there was a scientific study that indicates that pine needles do not acidify the soil permanently. So I don't think you need to worry about using pine needles. You could always put only half the garden bed in pine needles and see if you tell a difference between the two sides, but again, I don't think you need to worry. the rings you see around pine trees are usually just because the trees shade the area and kill off other competing vegetation, which is not the case for pine needles.

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My new garden for 2020-an old silo ring. I will have to put walkways in as I can't reach across it.

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Thanks. Thinking a layer of sandstone sand, get some stale straw from a rancher and buy dirt.


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I wasn't sure what all you had tried, though I know you were trying lots of different things, some with some success, even temporarily. The short grass is mainly for the stages before they become adults, since adults have a lot easier time migrating from one area to another than the nymphs do.
I agree that a manure pile that old isn't going to generate any heat. I don't know if covering it with clear plastic or black plastic would help heat it. Doing that to solarize soil can kill weeds and some weed seeds before planting. Clear works better with soil, since the black soil can absorb the sun's rays and really get hot. Black may be better for manure piles, depending on how dark they are?

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Manure pile is 2 years old and we don't have any livestock any more. I have 281 acres of long grass outside my garden. They did just fine on the short grass. Flour did not work or if it did not enough. I am tilling everything (raised beds, tires, pallets) and starting over next year and will probably spend some $$$ on soil. Sevin worked to kill them but I would have to spray evry day. we are going to plant an area with crops that attract beneficial insects that will kill them It is my old garden plot across the driveway. I tried Organic sprays also and they would work for a day or 2. We are going to start spraying early next year. People around here state when they get as bad as they did this year, nothing works. Think locusts.

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If the manure/straw is all piled in the center, would the heat from it composting kill the eggs? Have to keep turning it somewhat to make sure it continues to cook. Since it can get up to 165 degrees I believe, and it's enough to kill weed seeds, maybe it would kill grasshopper eggs too?
According to what I read, grasshoppers lay their eggs in the soil, so maybe there wouldn't be any in the manure, especially since fresh manure is so hot already?
I read that rototilling the soil can help kill any eggs that were overwintering in your garden.

I also just read that dusting your plants with flour can help against grasshoppers, since the flour gums up their mouth parts and causes them to starve. And keeping a strip of grass around the plant beds mowed short also deters them, since they are reluctant to enter that area because there's no food. Alternately, making a grass trap (an area away from your garden plants that you DON'T mow), can attract them there where you can then catch and kill them.

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My problem as we do not have leaves or grass clippings. I have manure but I am adverse to using it as I am afraid of grasshopper eggs. I will probably use some sand. We have a lot of sandstone around here. I could also collect pine needles but I would be afraid they would be too acidic. I will think of something because I like your idea, I could buy some straw or maybe get some of the old hay people have lying round.

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We used to dig trenches, fill them with leaves, then add an inch of soil. We'd put the potato pieces on that, then cover with a bit more soil. We piled up the rest of the soil we dug out of the trenches on either side, to use to hill up the potato plants as they grew. The potatoes formed in the leaves and were nice and big. And we basically could just put our hands in there and pull them out, it was so loose. Barely had to dig at all, which was a good thing since we invariably skewered several with the digging fork in the process when we just planted in dirt. It was a lot of work since we planted them in the park district plots and couldn't do anything until Spring. I figured if I wanted to grow them at home (once we retire and move back to the farm), I would dig the trenches in the Fall and fill them with straw, manure, leaves, etc. More time to do that in the Fall, and then once it was Spring, all I'd need to do was plant the potatoes (maybe top off the trenches with more organic matter first, but at least they would already be dug and filled part way).

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Instead of just filling the silo ring with dirt, you could fill it now with leaves, straw, and any other organic matter that isn't even decomposed yet. You could mix some dirt in with it to help it along, and it will break down over winter. The potatoes won't care if it is broken down or not, and any loose material like straw and leaves just makes it easier for the potatoes to grow large. Plus they are heavy feeders so that provides enough food for them for the whole season.

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Today I am going to put together my silo garden. My husband took apart a small silo and I got the bottom ring. I am going to fill it with dirt and probably try planting potatoes next year. It stands about ' high so will provide plenty of room for potatoes. I like re-purposing things for gardens such as old tires, old pallets, wine bottles. Anyone have any other ideas?

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So great to read about your nice gardens. Mine has been disappointing this summer. Hope to do better with fall plantings.

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Great. Nothing beats a home grown tomato fresh off the vine! That's the real taste of Summer for me!

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There aren't many tomatoes on my plants, but a few are quite large!


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Haha! That's funny!
I think mine were attacked by the Pumpkin Shrinkers, they are all so small!

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There may be a shortage of pumpkin spice to make pies, lattes, and other creations! I just saw this report on Facebook:


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I should get fancier and sink pots. Our water pressure is so high we have to turn water on and off at the main valve or we have leaks all over, since that is such a pain I fill plastic milk jugs with water and put one next to each thirsty plant. Then I can soak/water about every third day and refill my jugs. I also save rain water in them for house plants that don't like our hard water.

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Very cool watering concept! I have one very hot and dry bed on the south side of my house. Most years I put my tomatoes there and sink an empty detergent or vinegar jug into the ground next to each plant, having sliced off the bottom. I water directly into this jug, which directs the water to the roots and keeps me from having to soak the entire bed for just a few plants. Not exactly the same, but a similar use of container watering.

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@AMYLFA we are kindred spirits! as Anne would say. Unfortunately, around here we have to keep the front yard mowed. :( Price of living in a lovely city, tho. Rosy is watching me like a hawk. She doesn't want me to forget her!

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Kim, I heartily agree: being out on a romp with the dogs is much more important than doing pointless activities like tending to a plot of bluegrass!

I have turned my yard over to whatever wild weeds can survive on their own, 'cuz I only water the flower- and veggie-beds. I do mow the grasses for the brief period in the Spring when they are lush - just so they won't be a huge hay field when they dry out - but after that the yard is an interesting cycle of various native ground covers.

I want to convert a lot more of the yard into raised beds and garden space. I was just reminded of a nifty ancient method of irrigating in arid regions - ollas! If you're not familiar with ollas, here's a good article about using them for irrigation.
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If you have purchased something that came in a large plastic bucket, you could also drill holes in the bucket and sink it into the ground. However, the idea of using clay pots instead of plastic really appeals to me. I've also seen some cool diy articles about using common unglazed clay plant pots to make ollas. I think I'll try it out.


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When I get back from doggie camp, I hope to start working more regularly at the community garden in the area. It would be needed exercise, and I would like to be a part of putting the garden to bed for the winter. Hoping winter weather does not come early this year as it did last year.

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As I was unable to plant a spring garden this year, I am planting some fall vegges. I am planting a few garlics to see how they do for this year. I have sme herbs that are to grow through the season on my patio

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Planting more zuchini and squash today for the fall garden. Yesterday, planted lettuce, spinach, bok choi, chinese cabbage and spinach mustard in milk jugs that will hopefully be transplanted out in the garden soon.

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If I could ditch the grass and replace with edibles, I would. Unfortunately, I don't have the time and energy to do that.

I was very pleased with the walking stick collards (kale?) I planted in the spring. In July they became bug magnets for the plants next to them while they slowed down/stopped production. I've sprayed with an organic spray, picked the weeds around them and have been watering well. I expect that they will produce through our mild winter. I believe they are biennials, too.



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We also have our mower set to the highest setting, don't water our lawn, and ours is the last one on the block to go dormant when we have long periods without rain. It's best for the grass, longer length also helps shade the soil which also inhibits weed seed germination.

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My parents were agitating to water the lawn (which I think is a complete waste of time). If only I could persuade the mowers to set their mowers to 4 inches, it would be so much healthier and greener. Still remember my previous house... everyone in the neighborhood had yellow lawns, despite assiduous watering, and there's me, not watering much at all, and nice green lawn. finally caved to peer pressure and mowed, and boomp, yellow lawn. It really makes a difference.

I can't mow myself (bad back, worse allergies), but sure wish I could. On the other hand, I am gone a lot with dog trials, etc. and so... which would I rather do, stay home and garden or go out with the dog? need day-extenders please.....

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We went on a little trip and by the time we returned, there was every kind of insidious grass weed known to man overtaking our garden. It's tough in the south at this time of the year to pull weeds in the heat. I've managed to pull weeds around the vegetables and have weed eated and put cardboard and junk mail on top of what's left.

Luckily I don't have any close neighbors to complain about how weedy it is. I have found that even a very weedy garden can produce enough to eat!

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Wow, Cathy, that's a lot of work! I hope all the icky stuff stays gone for you.

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Joanne: The Serbian Green bean soup I make has garlic, onions, tomatoes, green beans, paprika) The original recipe also has ham. Since I eat very little fat to control my cholesterol, I omit that and sometimes add lentils. I happened to have cream zippper peas from the garden so I added that too. Instead of ham, I use smoked paprika and smoked salt to flavor.

Glad you liked it.

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@MRSLIVINGWELL, I made the soup yesterday, using a recipe I found for Serbian Green Bean Soup. I had only yellow beans, but they seemed to be an obvious replacement! Beans, onion, carrots, potato and parsley from the garden, tomato and broth from the store. It was sooo delicious! Thanks for the inspiration!


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I did not realize that crab grass is an annual, Cathy. Your post led me to google, which led me to a video on telling the difference between the different weedy grasses. My grass problem is more quack grass, with its reaching roots. I can dig it out of the garden and beds every year, but the roots just stretch back over from wherever it is still established. And every little bit of root that snaps off during the digging process starts to grow again underground, making even more quack grass....
I do have some crab grass, and some fescue as well, but it is the quack grass that gives me a real backache!!
WHITEANGEL, I always admire those perfect lawns that some assiduous gardeners are able to achieve - I have never had one of those myself though!

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Well Hubby has been working on our lawn all year. We have some brown spots due to the heat, but the rains that are coming daily will remedy that.. Before we moved from our other home we had the prettiest lawn in the neighborhood. Hubby is trying all he did there to repeat it here/

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Good thing crab grass is an annual. Just trying to prevent it from going to seed and spreading all those seeds all over the front lawns of all the houses on the court!

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Sounds like you are a good neighbour to have!
Crabgrass is so pertinacious! No matter how much you pull, there always seems to be enough left behind to begin the next assault!

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