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1/7/15 7:14 P

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So true about the journey! Like you said 135 is a healthy weight but I am not a healthy eater. As fit and active as I am, I have always had the belly fat and finally went to a nutritionist. She felt my biggest challenge was saturated fats. I reward myself with food - I put in a hard workout I think "ah I've earned that ice cream." And then of course when I am stressed I love my chocolate and sweets. I wouldn't say I have a food obsession but definitely a sugar addiction.

Hitting my target BMI will definitely be a great side effect, but the best results will be that I will finally kick my sugar addiction, and feel good. Good luck with the Personal Trainer, let us know how it goes.

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1/7/15 6:06 P

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I am working to get to the point of tracking again myself. I am working on recovering from food issues, quite honestly. It is hard. Right now, I just use a Fitbook to track WHAT I am eating vs. how many calories (calories throw me into a bad headspace -- for me tracking calories = diet mode which is a dark, ugly place). I have come from a place of being waaaaay obsessive with food so I guess I am a really big one of sustainablity. How much fun is it to set sights on a goal that is number one VERY hard to achieve and number 2 impossible to maintain once reached? Not much fun. I have come from that place of of obsession and number chasing so I focus mainly on eating whole foods 90% of the time, getting in a TON of protein, eating lots of fresh fruits and veggies and chilling the he** out about most things emoticon

It truly is a process and I am more focused on the process versus the outcome. I weigh but use that number VERY loosely. I take pictures and try to focus on the small, subtle changes. I think it is so easy to fixate on a number or a dash to the finish, but in all reality it is so much more worth it to just take the time to figure it out and find the right path individually if that makes sense?

I looooove to lift, but am taking time on that to asses what I REALLY want and am going to meet with a personal trainer to help me get focused on a plan that works really well for me.

Good luck, girl! Sounds like you are working on a good path!!

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1/7/15 5:18 P

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Yes I will admit yesterday I skipped working out because I didn't eat a meal until almost 4 PM - not a normal day but it happened. I knew any kind of workout would be pointless with no energy. I will up my Spark tracker from 1500 to 2500 - TRACK honestly what I take in, and EAT in a more timely fashion and see what kind of results I start seeing.

I can do as ALP suggest raise or lower the amount I need depending on my results.

Edited by: SHINIGAN at: 1/7/2015 (17:19)
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1/7/15 5:13 P

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Hi ALP,

You're correct on a number of points - BMI vs Wgt - I don't usually focus on wgt, just a little sensitive right now because we relocated in Sept, I started a new job in July that was on contract, and ended in October, between the move and job then jobless situation my food and activity completely fell off the wagon, my clothes don't fit and I don't feel good. From March to July I was training horses full time - loads of activity but too busy to eat. Now it's all about balance, I do have a modest amount of pudge that I didn't have 7 mos ago that I want gone, but the reality is if I put the muscle back on that I had the scale won't look much different, I was about 18% at 130. I wouldn't complain about getting back to that.

HONEST tracking!! Yes! I think I need to be better about that! I will do okay but only get about 2 out of 3 meals, or eat everything that I tracked but not track everything that I ate ;-)
getting exercise is not hard to do but this honest tracking is definitely something I will double my effort on.

3 for 3 you're dead on again on sustainability - I honestly am not sure how sustainable a 16% BMI is for me - this is a number that I calculated using my age hgt wgt formula for runners - any lower would not be healthily sustainable. It is a personal challenge I would like to at least reach and reassess from there. I think the more honest tracking will help accomplish both the slight wgt loss and muscle rebuilding that I need to do - I know I eat too many empty carbs and too little protein.

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1/7/15 5:00 P

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I would have to agree with ALP1976.

You would be surprised how many calories your body actually needs just to function. I run 4 days a week with weekly miles between 25-30 depending on the week. On Saturdays, my long runs, I burn over 1500 calories just from running, on those days I eat close to 3000 calories. And those are the only days I try to count my calories just so I make sure I have eaten enough to allow my body the proper nutrients to recover.

But again, these plans are just cookie cutter and you need to find what works for you and make adjustments as needed. But you should never go below 1200 calories.

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1/7/15 4:32 P

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You sound pretty active. I think many people are surprised to find out how MANY calories that they really should be eating (especially when we're conditioned to the 1200 calorie mindset of days past...)

Honestly, there isn't really a magic number. I think it is a lot of trial and error. Honest tracking helps, but I say start with the number you came up with and roll with it for awhile. If you're not losing on that then gradually tweak it down a bit.

Can I be honest? Your weight seems pretty healthy. I say kick the scale to the curb and stay with a healthy body fat% Have you considered body recomp as opposed to weight loss? Recomp will help with leaning out but not doing so with severe restriction. Honestly eating to TDEE and lifting weights is a great way to accomplish body recomp (I am not there, I am just now venturing on wanting to lose myself). You can ignore my opinion emoticon because we all have to figure out what works for us individually but you seem to be at an ideal healthy weight now. I guess I like to look at future proofing and finding a sustainable means to an end -- just making sure it is something that you'll be able to maintain with ease when you reach that point. emoticon

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Okay following another thread on here I did my own math and used an online BMR calculator - the math said my BMR is 1361.49. The online calculator said 1589. Reading the article that the math formula was in I am supposed to add my calories burned from extra activities to this BMR right? but then I come up with a number in the 3000's, and I am only supposed to subtract 500 from that total to create a calorie defecit? It seems like a LOT of food to me to try to take in more than 2000 per day, but I also do have a habit of not eating enough so someone who is really good at this please help. So between having a desk job and watching TV with family in the evening I'm sure I do sit 10 -12 depending on driving, over time, etc. 3-5 times per week I groom/ride/groom my horse - grooming is easily moderate aerobic activity and lasts 20-30 min before and after and I burn about 250-300 calories during each ride (per Polar). In addition I run aprox 3 miles 3x week and strength train 2-3 times usually with more of a HIIT method rather than a heavy wgt, lift till failure kind of method. I'm 5'4" 39 and 135, 23 BMI (Got a little lax the last 6 mos, getting back on track). SOOOO how many calories should I be taking in? I don't want to bonk and I'm not aiming for a figure competition, but I would like to get down to my "racing weight" which would be between 118-125 and 16%.

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