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LUANN_IN_PA Posts: 30,480
10/16/19 11:59 A

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"Powdered wood in food just doesn't sound right. "
Probably because it isn't right.

Cellulose is a non-digestible plant fiber and the companies that manufacture cellulose create it from a variety of plant sources. It is not powdered wood.

I try to avoid it and other additives as much as possible.
A friend recently sent me this:

www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/2014/07/10/32
9767647/from-mcdonalds-to-organic-vall
ey-youre-probably-eating-wood-pulp


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10/16/19 11:33 A

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Thank you for your thoughtful and cogent reply. I know that cellulose is not harmful per se, but want to avoid it as much as possible. I don't like how manufacturers add it to products and then tout the item as being "high in fiber". I mostly avoid processed foods especially since I came back to Spark. I know how to bake bread but it isn't always easy to do in the summer. Now that the weather has cooled, I look forward to trying some new, healthy recipes. I like your idea of almond flour bread with psyllium for a low carb option as I am paying close attention to carb intake.


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URBANREDNEK Posts: 10,447
10/15/19 8:25 P

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I can't say that I disagree with trying to avoid cellulose gum (which is an extraction of natural cellulose that has been processed with alkali or acids, and so is not the same thing as natural cellulose occurring in and being consumed as part of a whole food item). The problem is that it truly is something difficult to avoid since it has uses in the creation of so many foods and other products (detergents to toothpaste to ice cream - pretty versatile).

Natural cellulose is a critical part of all of our diets when we eat it as part of (not separated from) the natural whole plant, and obviously is not the item that you take issue with.

Just like things such as carageenan and guar gum and xanthan gum are all processed from natural products, using them as food additives purely for the purposes of the manufacturer (from lower costs to creating the "super palatable" textures and flavours to create increased consumption) does not make them something that I necessarily want to include in my food choices. For the most part, they alter the texture and flavour of food items in ways that I don't enjoy, and they do not add any health or nutritional benefits, so avoiding them is a strong personal preference. I'm really not that concerned about them being overly harmful - but don't find them helpful enough to be willing to pay for them!

Personally, I prefer to avoid those things as well. Since it is almost impossible to do so while purchasing processed foods (and even some that most don't consider "processed", such as heavy whipping cream which all of our local suppliers now add carageenan to), I end up making almost everything myself from whole food ingredients.

I'm not a fan of the whole "fluffy texture bread" style (Wonderbread and equivalents gross me out), so am much happier with my homemade wholegrain sourdough loaves. I also enjoy homemade low carb rolls made with almond flour and psyllium husk (which is simply removed from the seed and not processed with other acids / alkali). If you really want to avoid the cellulose gum in food items, then I'm afraid you're pretty much stuck with making things at home --- which hopefully you enjoy doing as much as I do!

References: www.nutrientsreview.com/carbs/insoluble-fi
ber-cellulose.html
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carboxymethyl_cellul
ose
www.livestrong.com/article/448293-is-cellu
lose-gum-harmful/


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10/15/19 5:07 P

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I'll still avoid it. And yes, I eat cinnamon - a spice from tree bark. Thanks for your support.


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10/15/19 2:43 P

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Cellulose is naturally occurring in plants - fruits, vegetables, whole grains, etc. In all seriousness, a tree is just a really big plant. Your homemade rounds will contain cellulose because they probably contain whole grains.

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10/15/19 2:24 P

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Do you also avoid cinnamon?

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Diet Doctor Dr. Jason Fung www.dietdoctor.com/authors/d
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Intensive Dietary Management idmprogram.com/blog/
Guide to low carb eating www.dietdoctor.com/low-carb/
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10/15/19 2:10 P

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Maybe I'm wrong, but I'm not happy about whole wheat breads and other so-called health foods containing cellulose. I really want to buy Sandwich Thins but I try to avoid anything with cellulose. Powdered wood in food just doesn't sound right. Maybe I'll just use a large biscuit cutter and cut out rounds in my healthy bread to make my own "thins"!


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