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10/21/19 3:56 P

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Studies are just studies. Use common sense with info, especially check how many people were used in the study. I believe in “all things in moderation”. You can drive yourself nuts worrying about something a study says and then find out they often use less than a hundred subjects. Remember coffee...bad for you, good for you, bad for you and now good for you again, in moderation, of course. Enjoy what you like in moderation. emoticon



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10/21/19 11:36 A

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True, dietary fat is not the same as body fat.

1. 'The influence of dietary fat on insulin resistance. Dietary fat has been implicated in the development of insulin resistance in both animals and humans. Most, although not all, studies suggest that higher levels of total fat in the diet result in greater whole-body insulin resistance.'

The influence of dietary fat on insulin resistance. - NCBI


www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov › pubmed

2. Dr. Neal Barnard is a board certified MD professor at George Washington University Medical School. He has written a book based on the research that shows that diabetes can be reduced, maintained and even reversed with dietary changes (including reduction in dietary fat ).


His steps:
'Eat a plant-based diet.
Limit high fat foods.
Eat foods that are low on the glycemic index.
Eat about 40 grams of fiber a day.'

In our family, we have seen results using this method. That is not to say that other methods exist.

www.pcrm.org/health-topics/diabetes

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Edited by: MRSLIVINGWELL at: 10/21/2019 (11:57)
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10/21/19 8:55 A

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Dietary fat does not necessarily equal body fat, though...

EXCESS dietary fat might, but that says nothing really about the general safety of dairy or even fat itself.



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10/21/19 8:02 A

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Dairy isn't necessarily the culprit, the issue is fat (dairy, esp cheese contains fat):

From MD Anderson Cancer Center (One of the premier cancer centers in the US)

Body Fat increases the risk for certain types of cancer, including colorectal, esophageal, kidney, pancreatic,post-menoausal breast and endometrial cancers.
Body Fat triggers inflammation. -->
Inflammation causes the pancrease to produce more insulin.-->
Extra fat cells also make estrogen.-->
Too much insulin and estrogen cause cells to divide more than usual.-->
In some cases, these new cells can form cancerous tumors."

https://www.mdanderson.org/publications/focused-on-health/hormones-and-cancer-whats-the-link.h30Z1591413.html

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Edited by: MRSLIVINGWELL at: 10/21/2019 (08:04)
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10/18/19 11:07 A

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Thank you POPSECRET; that was a good summary. I especially appreciated the lengthy list of references it cited -- all scholarly research, and some that are relatively recent.

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10/17/19 8:32 A

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Here is an article you might find helpful. If find it to be a great non-biased, strictly-science look at all arguments for and against dairy.

https://www.precisionnutrition.com/is-dairy-good-or-bad-for-you

It is a bit long…if you don't want to read the whole thing, the Hormones section is about 1/4 or 1/3 of the way down.

Hope it helps!



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10/16/19 4:04 P

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If you want to avoid milk but still get calcium, but not much more, try almond milk. I love the almond milk with vanilla unsweetened and only 30 calories. It helps me get my calcium easily.

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Thank you UBANREDNECK and ANARIE; THAT's the information I was looking for.

Edited by: ALUKOWSKY at: 10/16/2019 (09:38)
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Given you have a genetic history to breast cancer, I would be inclined to ask your Dr to test you for BRCA1 and BRCA2 genetic mutations. If it is found to be the case with you, there are preventive measures that can be taken.

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Another thing to know is that there is virtually no use of growth hormones in US milk production. Bovine growth hormones are extremely expensive and labor-intensive, and milk prices are so low that it makes no sense. The farmer would be paying $20 for a shot that might make an extra 20 cents' worth of milk (not to mention making the cow very cranky.) Antibiotics might be a concern, but growth hormones just aren't happening.



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10/15/19 6:01 P

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From a quick search in Google Scholar, it looks like current research actually supports an INVERSE link between dairy consumption and breast cancer, where those including higher amounts of dairy have lower risks of breast cancer.

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC47050
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journals.lww.com/md-journal/Fulltext/2019/
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I was actually hoping someone could comment on the research; IS there any recent corroborating literature in JAMA or similar publication -- HAS anyone conducted follow-up research?

(And I don't have a personal physician anyway -- I don't seek medical attention unless I've fallen off my horse and injured myself, lol!)

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I try hard to have most of my dairy be organic. I drink plenty of skim milk, eat cheese and yogurt regularly. I just figured that organic would solve the issue of growth hormones, etc. Certainly doesn't speak to the estrogen, but because I'm post-menopausal, I'm hoping that's not a bad thing for me.

With a family history of breast cancer, I'd be checking with your doctor, for sure.

Thanks for sharing this!



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10/15/19 1:52 P

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I agree that your doctor would be the best person to comment on the validity of those claims and whether or not you're at risk.

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This question is probably something you should bring up with your personal doctor.

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Has anyone else heard about this?

I ran across a news story that an organization called "Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine" wants the FDA to warn women that consuming dairy products might raise their risk of breast cancer. The article specifically mentioned cheese. Their hypothesis seems plausible: dairy products are made from milk; milk contains estrogen (as well as growth hormones and pesticide residue in the case of industrial-scale non-organic milk.) Cheese is concentrated milk, so these purported biohazards are also concentrated. Interestingly, the article made no mention of yogurt, another even more concentrated form of milk.

I googled the organization and discovered that, depending on the source, they were regarded as either quacks and frauds or as a valuable counterweight to entrenched medical dogma. An organization that takes funding and bases its ideology on PETA probably is suspect; on the other hand, the American Medical Association's chief complaints against PCRM seem to be that they advocate a "dangerous" plant-based diet for people and oppose animal testing.

More troubling is that the few peer-reviewed studies seem to be between 15 and 25 years old.

Is this something I should be concerned about? I don't drink cow's milk, but I do eat fat-free Greek-style yogurt daily, and consume cheese several times a week. I also have a family history of breast cancer.

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