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7/11/19 12:51 A

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“I nearly always go waaaay over the recommended sugar range, however it isn't because of added sugar - it is mostly because I eat a lot of fruit/veggies.”

I’m kinda sorta with ya, in the Northern hemisphere. Life is good. I’m eating fresh from the garden and the orchards, It’s my highest fructose consumption of the year. It’s also one of my busiest. Many can’t equate that.

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7/10/19 11:16 P

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The same can be said for Lustig.

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7/10/19 11:03 P

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She starts low carb, then leads excess sugar.

Bait and switch. Fear monger. Chinese Whispers.

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7/10/19 2:57 P

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I think I will just stick to my own healthy eating, nothing is out of my diet but just eat things in moderation.

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7/10/19 8:26 A

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A quick search found this article. I have always believed that we should let food be thy medicine whenever possible.

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8 Reasons to Try Low-Carb for Mental Health

Low-carbohydrate diets have tremendous potential in the prevention and management of psychiatric disorders. The field of nutritional psychiatry is admittedly in its infancy, and rigorous clinical trials exploring the effect of dietary changes on mental health are few and far between, but a tremendous amount of science already exists detailing how high-sugar diets jeopardize brain health and how low-carbohydrate diets support brain health.

Reason 3. Reduce inflammation.

High-sugar diets promote excessive, unnecessary inflammation inside the brain, triggering the release of various inflammatory cytokines—tiny SOS signals that recruit first-responder cells to the scene. Inflammation of this type is well established as a root cause of most psychiatric and neurological diseases. Low-carbohydrate diets have been shown to reduce markers of inflammation. Protect your precious neurons from overheating.

Full article here - www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/diagnosis-
diet/201906/8-reasons-try-low-carb-men
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I eat mostly vegetables, fats, meats, some fruit and dark chocolate. Unprocessed and preservative free food. And it's changed my life!

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7/10/19 6:37 A



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I think that the key word is the word "excess" - it puts a total different context to the rest of the sentence.

I nearly always go waaaay over the recommended sugar range, however it isn't because of added sugar - it is mostly because I eat a lot of fruit/veggies.

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7/10/19 12:18 A

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"Can we agree, fructose is not poison?"

I'm saying the excess is the poison. Excess sugar is poison.
Yes, sugar is poison, in excess. That is the whole point of the presentations.

But, if you want to argue that fructose is not poisonous, well, I think you are missing the point. The FDA refuses to draw the line on what is excessive and what is not.

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The Bitter Truth About Sugar by Robert Lustig | Look for it on YouTube
Added sugar is addictive, a poison, and destroys teeth.

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7/10/19 12:09 A

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@INTOTHENEW

I'm not dodging anything, it's just my opinion, in excess, as in added sugar without fiber (added fructose), how can it be good for our body chemistry? The low quantities found in natural fruits are not harmful. I'm simply stating the added sugars to overly sweeten foods can't be good for us. I'm not implying all sugars are bad, just the added stuff that gets folks hooked on sugar which leads to obesity.

All I know is what I read, and the majority of what I read shows it could be the cause of a lot of society's health problems, mental and physical.

Here is some more reading.
www.healthline.com/nutrition/why-is-fructo
se-bad-for-you#section4


All I'm saying is, I believe sugar in excess, cannot be good for us. I'm doing my best to avoid excess sugar and processed foods. I'm seeing the benefits with my own body.

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The Bitter Truth About Sugar by Robert Lustig | Look for it on YouTube
Added sugar is addictive, a poison, and destroys teeth.

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7/9/19 8:36 P

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“You need to watch the whole presentation, and other presentations like it. Sugars in fruit do not count against you as the antidote is fiber. The fiber makes you feel full and the vitamins in the fiber help the body absorb and digest the food. Fruit surgar is not the same as processed sugar.”

Don’t dodge. Is there any form of fructose that we should dodge? Is all fructose poison?

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7/9/19 8:18 P

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Thank you @SHOIPIE.

The board goes too far left or right, too often.

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Can we agree, fructose is not poison?

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7/9/19 7:22 P

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@INTOTHENEW

You need to watch the whole presentation, and other presentations like it. Sugars in fruit do not count against you as the antidote is fiber. The fiber makes you feel full and the vitamins in the fiber help the body absorb and digest the food. Fruit surgar is not the same as processed sugar.

Harry - Moving along at the speed of fat loss.

The Bitter Truth About Sugar by Robert Lustig | Look for it on YouTube
Added sugar is addictive, a poison, and destroys teeth.

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7/9/19 7:15 P

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“3. Fructose and sugars are toxins (poison)”

I only made it to just past the 26 minute mark in the second video. He is a scare monger. If what he says is true, basically every fruit and vegetable we consume contains poison.

Sure, killing cans of soda is bad.

But, don’t diss the majority of sugar contained naturally in fruits and vegetables. Fructose is no more a poison than water. Too much of either can kill you.

Get real.

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7/9/19 5:55 P

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I totally concur about sugar. I believe it's the devil in our world, namely because many people don't know how to do moderation and sugar can be very addictive. I think sugar is largely responsible for the obesity epidemic our society faces.

While it would be near impossible to eat NO sugar with the state of our foods, it IS possible to limit sugar, which I do regularly.

As for carbs, don't forget that all carbs are not equal. Carbs from fruits and veggies are good carbs ... and our bodies need them.

Hope this helps!

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7/8/19 3:33 P

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I agree with the sugar especially since trying to cut down/give up
Thanks for the information

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7/8/19 3:29 P

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@SALLYJMPR

Just watched several YouTube videos on this subject.

In particular:
youtu.be/TXlVfwJ6RQU

and

youtu.be/dBnniua6-oM

Things are starting to come together for me, and making more sense. After watching these lectures, I'm convinced that we are at war with the food industry.

Some conclusions as seen in the slide presentations are:
1. A calorie is not a calorie
2. Exercise is not what we really think it's for
3. Fructose and sugars are toxins (poison)
4. The food pyramid is grossly flawed

I would say, watch the presentations and draw your own conlusions.
I believe we have a major mental and physical health crisis and it's spreading worldwide. My conclusion is that sugar is destroying the chemistry in our bodies and brains.

Everyone needs to stop eating sugar.


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The Bitter Truth About Sugar by Robert Lustig | Look for it on YouTube
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7/4/19 6:35 A

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Thanks Kris x

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If you are eating crap including crap carbs in place of healthy, nutritious food, then yes, overall the sugar/carbs and lack of essential nutrients WILL harm you. You may not realize it, but it will. Lack of good nutrition has been proven to affect the mental health of a lot of people, and it doesn't help diabetes either.

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7/4/19 6:18 A

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Ah sorry just re-read what I wrote, apparently low carb/sugar is good for improving mental health, that's what I meant.
My diet when I'm down tends to be junk carbs and sugar because I can't be arsed, obviously the weight gain that comes with it doesn't improve my mood. But now I'm wondering if it harms it too...

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I haven't had experience of this, but then I haven't ever eating low carb, either.

I guess it depends on what you term 'low carb' ... if it is keto low carb, as in very low carbs, then I guess it could affect mental health because the brain needs carbs to function properly. Keto followers will likely argue that the brain does well because the body converts fats/proteins to be utilized, but I would imagine that whereas that might work for some, for others the body isn't so adaptable.

I will add that I have suffered from very bad depression .... for me, diet had nothing to do with it.

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Hi,
I've suffered / suffer from depression triggered by perinatal depression (while pregnant, continued afterwards) baby is almost one so I know there's a chance for a reacurrance around about now, so doing a bit of research and found a couple of articles on low carb/sugar damaging mental health. Just wondering if anyone's had any experience, success no change etc. Thanks x

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